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      03-27-2014, 11:44 PM   #463
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Depends on your camber. But i'd say 10mm rear for sure, front depends more on your camber
Thanks for the feedback. Was wondering whether the tires were wide enough that I'd be limited to 5mm.

Last season I ran 2.7 deg. up front (before the Dinan drop) and it was already pretty full and probably doesn't need to (or even can't) push out farther. The rear's the thing.
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Depends on your camber. But i'd say 10mm rear for sure, front depends more on your camber
Thanks for the feedback. Was wondering whether the tires were wide enough that I'd be limited to 5mm.

Last season I ran 2.7 deg. up front (before the Dinan drop) and it was already pretty full and probably doesn't need to (or even can't) push out farther. The rear's the thing.
Gotcha, you could definitely run a 5mm up front if you really wanted to, but either way, a 10mm in rear will work well and match the front
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      03-28-2014, 02:56 AM   #465
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Looking at the size and offsets of the wheels you are looking to put on your car, you should be able to fit a 15mm front and 12mm rear without any issues on the conservative side. You can probably even fit an 18mm in the front and 15mm rear, although I do suggest to measure it before hand to see how much you want to bring the wheels out. If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.

I ordered from EAS 12 mm for rear wheels and 18mm for front wheels. Rear is perfect, front could be more aggressive. I think 22 mm would be the perfect fit.

However I have a little problem with my order. EAS sent me wrong size of bolts. With the spacers for front wheels I've got bolts for f30, not e90 car. I tried to install the wheel for a 15 minutes wondering why those bolts won't grab the tread. What do I do now? Return to EAS only the bolts, or the whole set? Mind you, this set is already "used". I put some white grease on bolts and installed one of the spacers on the wheel, so it has some small scratches.

Do I keep the spacers and you will send me correct bolts, or do I have to send back the whole set? If so, can I replace it with the wider one?

Excuse the quality of those pictures, but it is 4 o'clock in the morning and I have only cheap camera with limited lightning.


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      03-28-2014, 08:54 AM   #466
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Talk to EAS about it... We don't know whether they will take them back. I would expect that they would if they sent you the wrong part.

Btw - you should never put grease of any kind on lug bolts. The torque spec for lugs is a "dry" spec.
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      03-28-2014, 09:51 AM   #467
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Talk to EAS about it... We don't know whether they will take them back. I would expect that they would if they sent you the wrong part.
I will, but in CA is still early morning.

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Btw - you should never put grease of any kind on lug bolts. The torque spec for lugs is a "dry" spec.
I know, I was only planning to use anti-seize lubricant inside spacers, however when I couldn't "grab" tread inside wheel with those bolts I thought it would help. I am a trucker, I put that staff on bolts in my 18-wheeler all the time, it is a necessity in big rig. I didn't even think that I may have wrong size of the bolts, specially that other two (rear wheels and anti-theft) came in the right size.
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      03-28-2014, 11:11 AM   #468
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I ordered from EAS 12 mm for rear wheels and 18mm for front wheels. Rear is perfect, front could be more aggressive. I think 22 mm would be the perfect fit.

However I have a little problem with my order. EAS sent me wrong size of bolts. With the spacers for front wheels I've got bolts for f30, not e90 car. I tried to install the wheel for a 15 minutes wondering why those bolts won't grab the tread. What do I do now? Return to EAS only the bolts, or the whole set? Mind you, this set is already "used". I put some white grease on bolts and installed one of the spacers on the wheel, so it has some small scratches.

Do I keep the spacers and you will send me correct bolts, or do I have to send back the whole set? If so, can I replace it with the wider one?

Excuse the quality of those pictures, but it is 4 o'clock in the morning and I have only cheap camera with limited lightning.
Sorry about that, looks like a mistake on our end.

Can you PM me your full name so I can get you out the correct bolts immediately?
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      03-28-2014, 11:29 AM   #469
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Sorry about that, looks like a mistake on our end.

Can you PM me your full name so I can get you out the correct bolts immediately?
I already talk to someone at EAS, who told me that he will send the correct size bolts right away at no cost to me. Thx.
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I already talk to someone at EAS, who told me that he will send the correct size bolts right away at no cost to me. Thx.
Awesome, thanks for giving us the chance to make things right.
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      03-28-2014, 12:16 PM   #471
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With a setup like that I would recommend going with a 15mm front and a 12mm rear. With those sizes no issues with rubbing on the 245/365 tire sizes.

This particular car has 15/12
With the front track now relatively 6 mm wider (3 mm on each side), is this going to significantly affect the handling nature of the car? I'm assuming it should make the handling more neutral?

Front and rear track are 154mm and 153.9mm, respectively.
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Awesome, thanks for giving us the chance to make things right.
I'm still waiting... Someone from EAS told me he is sending those bolts last Friday. It is seventh day now and I don't even have tracking number for this shipment.
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Well don't just wait, PM Tom... Get them shipped overnight!
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I'm still waiting... Someone from EAS told me he is sending those bolts last Friday. It is seventh day now and I don't even have tracking number for this shipment.
I have a set of bolts for 18mm spacers you can borrow if you like. I work out by the speedway.
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I have a set of bolts for 18mm spacers you can borrow if you like. I work out by the speedway.
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I have a set of bolts for 18mm spacers you can borrow if you like. I work out by the speedway.
Thank you my friend but I can wait little longer. I also have great second car. Two cilinders, 0,65 L, 24 HP - when new, 0-60 ... well... eventually. Maybe 50 seconds on calm day and slightly downhill road.

I wonder if EAS has spacers for that baby?


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I'm still waiting... Someone from EAS told me he is sending those bolts last Friday. It is seventh day now and I don't even have tracking number for this shipment.
Just checked, looks like they're on the UPS truck on its way to you today. I'll send the tracking number via PM for you.
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Just checked, looks like they're on the UPS truck on its way to you today. I'll send the tracking number via PM for you.
Thank you. I apologize for my un-patience. Those UPS guys. need a week to get from CA to NC. When I run West Cosast, I was able to do this in three days.

Probably is the Teamsters fault.
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Holy balls that car could fit in our trunks
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Thank you. I apologize for my un-patience. Those UPS guys. need a week to get from CA to NC. When I run West Cosast, I was able to do this in three days.

Probably is the Teamsters fault.
Hey NC! I'm out in greensboro but head out to Charlotte for meets and such. At least EAS didn't send your stuff to the wrong address like they did mine the other day :/
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Holy balls that car could fit in our trunks
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Hey NC! I'm out in greensboro but head out to Charlotte for meets and such. At least EAS didn't send your stuff to the wrong address like they did mine the other day :/
They made a mistake, but they fixed it swiftly and painlessly. I have correct bolts now and I was able to install my spacers. I have 18 mm in front (wheel offset +32) and 12 mm in the rear (wheel offset +20), so all my wheels are 15 mm wider.















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Hello, after going through this whole thread, I am a little confused as to what may be ok for my setup. I have stock 19'' wheels with PSS 245/35 front and 265/35 rear with EDC. I am looking for a very aggressive setup but want absolutely no rubbing. I may end up lowering the car in a year or so (when warranty is up) as well.
I tried to measure for myself, however have no "straight edge" available that will fit to measure, they are all either too big or too small. From what I am reading some people say no issues at all with 18/15 but others say better to use the 15/12 setup. Basically just want to know if I have any chance of rubbing with the 18/15 and if I go with the 15/12 will that leave me some room for a drop in the future (considering all other things unchanged).

Thanks in advance and sorry if I should have gotten this answer form the previous posts.. I couldn't make the final decision
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I had 15/12 on mine with ZCP wheels. Couldn't of asked for it to be any more perfect. Now I have after market rims that are 10F 11R with 275/295. The car is lowered on KW sleeve kit and I still don't rub. You should be fine either way. I actually still have the spacers sitting around somewhere
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Sorry if I missed it but, anyone with E90, stock 219 18s, stock suspension, and 12/15mm spacers?
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