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      07-11-2018, 01:11 PM   #1
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So my wife tells me yesterday that she got a low oil indicator on her '11 E93 M3. I figure I'd throw in some regular oil...counter guy at Advance Auto says it calls for Castrol Edge 10W60 at ~$13/qt. Did some research here and it seems as the bearing tolerances are good with that weight oil. My question is, can I use a conventional oil without worrying about damaging the engine? It is my wife's car and she does not drive it hard at all. Also, it only has about 28k miles. Oh, one more thing, how low is the level when the low indicator light comes on?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Pretty interesting that the counter guy at Advanced Auto knows more about your car then you do! 10-60 oil is correct for your car and is not cheap.....nothing about an M3 is cheap!
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      07-11-2018, 01:41 PM   #3
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Half a quart when oil is low should bring it to full.
OP if your wifey drives a M what do you drive?
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So my wife tells me yesterday that she got a low oil indicator on her '11 E93 M3. I figure I'd throw in some regular oil...counter guy at Advance Auto says it calls for Castrol Edge 10W60 at ~$13/qt. Did some research here and it seems as the bearing tolerances are good with that weight oil. My question is, can I use a conventional oil without worrying about damaging the engine? It is my wife's car and she does not drive it hard at all. Also, it only has about 28k miles. Oh, one more thing, how low is the level when the low indicator light comes on?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

The sensor is a bit fickle. Add 1/2 quart, drive it around for a bit, then check again.

There is no conventional 10w60 that I know of. BMW specifies only synthetic oil, which is what Castrol Edge is. Alternatively, you can walk up to the parts counter at your dealership and get a bottle of the BMW-branded (made by Shell) 10w60.
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      07-12-2018, 01:36 AM   #6
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I have heard from mechanics that 0w-40 is fine for easy cruising. As long as the engine is not stressed and hitting redlines.
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      07-12-2018, 02:05 AM   #7
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I'd actually stick to 1/4 qt fill-ups each time.

I've had crappy experiences with our e-dipstick.

And yeah, this car has been out 10 yrs, it uses 10-60W.
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      07-12-2018, 02:12 AM   #8
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Is this for real? If cost of ownership is a concern, you're in for a surprise down the road.

Fyi Spark plugs need to be changed every 37k and diff fluid is 50 per quart. Just a heads up.
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10w-60 is correct. Oem oil is about 13$ per liter. This is the oem oil.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...r/83212365944/
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Buy your wife a regular 3 series convertible. It will have lower operating costs for tires, oil, brakes, and many other things.
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Guys, chill with the "OMG it's an M3 of course it's expensive." OP is just trying to understand how to maintain the car and ensure he doesn't get ripped off or whatever. There's no reason to fall for the German cars are expensive meme.
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      07-12-2018, 12:01 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the replies. I perform all the maintenance on our cars and had an Audi years ago so I'm familiar with parts being expensive, but when possible I try to lessen repair expenses, without sacrificing on quality. My current ride is a '16 V, which I love...had a '10 and '05 V too, which I also loved. I also have a 63 Nova SS convertible with an LS3, and have owned lots of muscle cars in the past. Keep an eye out for more whining in the near future
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Buy liqui moly 10w60 5 quart jugs. They are about $45 so you save a lot over buying individual Castrol quarts. You can also buy packs of castrol 10w60 quarts on amazon. They come out to like $10 a quart I believe if you buy 10 quarts. Do some searching around and you'll save money
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Buy liqui moly 10w60 5 quart jugs. They are about $45 so you save a lot over buying individual Castrol quarts. You can also buy packs of castrol 10w60 quarts on amazon. They come out to like $10 a quart I believe if you buy 10 quarts. Do some searching around and you'll save money
Thanks, saw it on Amazon...any oil filter suggestions?
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Buy liqui moly 10w60 5 quart jugs. They are about $45 so you save a lot over buying individual Castrol quarts. You can also buy packs of castrol 10w60 quarts on amazon. They come out to like $10 a quart I believe if you buy 10 quarts. Do some searching around and you'll save money
Buy your oil from FCP Euro. You buy the oil one time and it is free each time after. Fcp Euro oil kit is $142. Pay once and never pay again. I know it sounds too good to be true, look for the thread in the general section. Also Moly is very loud, definitely not a fan of moly.
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Thanks, saw it on Amazon...any oil filter suggestions?

There's not much selection here, just buy one of the big OEM suppliers like Mahle, Mann, or Hengst. They're all basically the same and there's even some relabeling going on by Baldwin, Wix, etc.
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There's not much selection here, just buy one of the big OEM suppliers like Mahle, Mann, or Hengst. They're all basically the same and there's even some relabeling going on by Baldwin, Wix, etc.
Got it, thanks.
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Buy your oil from FCP Euro. You buy the oil one time and it is free each time after. Fcp Euro oil kit is $142. Pay once and never pay again. I know it sounds too good to be true, look for the thread in the general section. Also Moly is very loud, definitely not a fan of moly.
Legit ship back 9 quarts of oil?
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Buy your oil from FCP Euro. You buy the oil one time and it is free each time after. Fcp Euro oil kit is $142. Pay once and never pay again. I know it sounds too good to be true, look for the thread in the general section. Also Moly is very loud, definitely not a fan of moly.
Legit ship back 9 quarts of oil?
Say again? Ship back?
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Buy your oil from FCP Euro. You buy the oil one time and it is free each time after. Fcp Euro oil kit is $142. Pay once and never pay again. I know it sounds too good to be true, look for the thread in the general section. Also Moly is very loud, definitely not a fan of moly.
Legit ship back 9 quarts of oil?
Say again? Ship back?
FCP requires their buyers to ship the oil back to get the warranty. I believe they send you the oil change kit first and they ask for the oil back so you're not left with an oil-less car for a few days
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Buy your oil from FCP Euro. You buy the oil one time and it is free each time after. Fcp Euro oil kit is $142. Pay once and never pay again. I know it sounds too good to be true, look for the thread in the general section. Also Moly is very loud, definitely not a fan of moly.
Legit ship back 9 quarts of oil?
Say again? Ship back?
FCP requires their buyers to ship the oil back to get the warranty. I believe they send you the oil change kit first and they ask for the oil back so you're not left with an oil-less car for a few days
Yes. And congrats on your car. Best feel good story of 2018 on M3post. You purchase an oil kit. Three months later when you are ready for another oil change you go to your "account" and order a new oil change kit. Once you receive it, you change the oil. Fill the oil containers they just sent you with the old oil, take the old filter and two O rings, package it all up, fill out some paperwork and drop that in the box and send it back to them USPS shipping for $19. You also go online to their website and fill a return form. Or maybe just the paper one. I can't recall, but once they receive the old kit they will credit your account, meaning CC back the $142. That's it. Rinse, wash and repeat when ready for the next oil change. Now, I don't even add a quart anymore because I'm changing at 3k miles. If the light does come on I might throw a tiny bit of oil in, order my kit which will take a few days if you add additional $10 shipping. If not it's free shipping to you and takes a little over a week. My last batch was ordered Monday and came in Thursday. Easy Peasy.

FCP Euro https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1514102
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