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      04-24-2021, 08:54 PM   #2509
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Is it illegal to drive drunk on my own private property? Example, if I own a few acres is it illegal to drive around my land while drunk?
LOL. Is that something you do often?
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      04-24-2021, 08:56 PM   #2510
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I think Murf993 hit the nail on the head with his response. I don't know that I would have punched her twice; I might have applied downward pressure. I can't say because I wasn't in that situation. It's much different when you're actively involved rather than standing on the sideline.

Let me paint another picture. What if her kick had connected with that officers knee and blown it out, causing him to be IOD'd for 6+ months and requiring surgery?!?! That's what happened to one of my partners last July. He's still out of work. The situations were very similar.
There is risk in anything: what if you get in a crash and die, should you never leave the house? In cases like this you just need to use common sense; like you said "applying more pressure...". Looks to me like the officer was not worried about his safety; he just got angry and wanted a payback.
There is risk, but that doesn't mean we sign(ed) up to readily accept getting assaulted. Applying pressure was merely an option, but not being in that officer's shoes, I have no idea if that was truly an option for him.


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I have no issue with punching someone in cuffs when they deserve it, like this lady did. One, maybe two quick shots to make sure your point, but then you have to stop.
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Is it illegal to drive drunk on my own private property? Example, if I own a few acres is it illegal to drive around my land while drunk?

No! We don't enforce traffic law(s) on private property unless the private property explicitly states the vehicle code is enforced. In the case of acting crazy on your own land......have at it.



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Agreed! But notice the guy doing the punching; he just looked like he wanted more of her. Notice his demeanor, as he had to hold himself back.
Yeah, so? We have no idea what happened in the seconds to minutes before this. We are making a snap judgment based on 30 seconds of video.

Maybe he did want more.
Maybe she deserved more.
Maybe the cop is an asshole.
Maybe the woman had assaulted the cop several times already.
Maybe the woman was aggressively resisting arrest.
Maybe the cop had verbally warned her to stop fighting.
Maybe the cop just likes to punch people.

How can any of us sit here and make the assertion that the cop is right or wrong based on this short video?

As I wrote earlier, sometimes people need to be punched. And that idea can be extrapolated to "sometimes people need to be shot."

....and therein lies the issue with body worn camera footage (...or third party cellular phone recordings). We get a 2D glimpse of a 3D situation. It doesn't tell the entire story.

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Yeah, so? We have no idea what happened in the seconds to minutes before this. We are making a snap judgment based on 30 seconds of video.

Maybe he did want more.
Maybe she deserved more.
Maybe the cop is an asshole.
Maybe the woman had assaulted the cop several times already.
Maybe the woman was aggressively resisting arrest.
Maybe the cop had verbally warned her to stop fighting.
Maybe the cop just likes to punch people.

How can any of us sit here and make the assertion that the cop is right or wrong based on this short video?

As I wrote earlier, sometimes people need to be punched. And that idea can be extrapolated to "sometimes people need to be shot."
So who is the "trained" one in this instance? Based on the "short" video, why would the other cop intercede? Videos like this do not help public perception, and I don't defend her actions, but the DA will have to decide if he should get more training, or not.
The other cops stepped in to prevent their partner from going too far. One or two punches?!? Sure. A third punch might've been ruled excessive. In my opinion they were looking out for their partner. It's easy to get tunnel vision when you're feeling threatened.
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      04-24-2021, 08:59 PM   #2511
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Sedan_Clan, man I have to hand it to you, you are on the ball with all these threads day in and day out. Props!
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Sedan_Clan, man I have to hand it to you, you are on the ball with all these threads day in and day out. Props!
I try to be on top of the thread. I enjoy open discussion.
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I try to be on top of the thread. I enjoy open discussion.
Nice. Maybe it's a nice departure from the daily grind you have with your job. Of course you gotta put up with some occasional BS around here too.
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      04-24-2021, 09:14 PM   #2514
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Nice. Maybe it's a nice departure from the daily grind you have with your job. Of course you gotta put up with some occasional BS around here too.
So true! This is a nice little outlet for me. It gets me through the day sometimes.


....and in other news:

Today's birthday drive-by for a teen who had previously been gang raped by a group of gang members. It's nice to see her smiling despite having something so tragic happen to her.

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So true! This is a nice little outlet for me. It gets me through the day sometimes.
That's our small way of giving back to you!
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OK, the discussion of driving drunk on your own property. BTW I am drunk NOW. LOL

I live in a private community on a golf course. I regularly drive from the club house to my home in my golf cart drunk as hell. I believe it is private property and I can not be arrested for it. Don't care. Gonna do it either way. Hic.

It's why I moved here.
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OK, the discussion of driving drunk on your own property. BTW I am drunk NOW. LOL

I live in a private community on a golf course. I regularly drive from the club house to my home in my golf cart drunk as hell. I believe it is private property and I can not be arrested for it. Don't care. Gonna do it either way. Hic.

It's why I moved here.
Eventually your HOA will pass a rule regarding this. Personally, I'd rather deal with Sedan, than any HOA.
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OK, the discussion of driving drunk on your own property. BTW I am drunk NOW. LOL

I live in a private community on a golf course. I regularly drive from the club house to my home in my golf cart drunk as hell. I believe it is private property and I can not be arrested for it. Don't care. Gonna do it either way. Hic.

It's why I moved here.
Lol! Unless that community contracts with local law enforcement to patrol there, you're good.
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Eventually your HOA will pass a rule regarding this. Personally, I'd rather deal with Sedan, than any HOA.
Lol, true that!
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How many cops have you heard that quit lately due to certain events in the media?
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      04-24-2021, 11:07 PM   #2521
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OK, the discussion of driving drunk on your own property. BTW I am drunk NOW. LOL

I live in a private community on a golf course. I regularly drive from the club house to my home in my golf cart drunk as hell. I believe it is private property and I can not be arrested for it. Don't care. Gonna do it either way. Hic.

It's why I moved here.
Lol! Unless that community contracts with local law enforcement to patrol there, you're good.
Dude I haven't seen your friend littlebear around here lately? Lol
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      04-24-2021, 11:19 PM   #2522
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Dude I haven't seen your friend littlebear around here lately? Lol
I know. I've had my popcorn ready to go for a while now! Lol.
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How many cops have you heard that quit lately due to certain events in the media?
We have double the amount of retirements scheduled for this year. We were originally expected to have just slightly over 300, but we have 704.

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OK, the discussion of driving drunk on your own property. BTW I am drunk NOW. LOL

I live in a private community on a golf course. I regularly drive from the club house to my home in my golf cart drunk as hell. I believe it is private property and I can not be arrested for it. Don't care. Gonna do it either way. Hic.

It's why I moved here.
Lol! Unless that community contracts with local law enforcement to patrol there, you're good.
Dude I haven't seen your friend littlebear around here lately? Lol
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Dude I haven't seen your friend littlebear around here lately? Lol
I know. I've had my popcorn ready to go for a while now! Lol.
The wife probably limited his internet access.
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Dude I haven't seen your friend littlebear around here lately? Lol
LOL! Premier missed me.

Went on vacation for a week (off line). It's hard to jump back into the sh!t pile after hanging out with, um, less strident ("He said 'strident'!") people for a while!
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The wife probably limited his internet access.
At least I got a wife...bless her soul.
But happiness is a warm gun, I know.

PS: Been reading books, magazines, the NYT....
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Dude I haven't seen your friend littlebear around here lately? Lol
LOL! Premier missed me.

Went on vacation for a week (off line). It's hard to jump back into the sh!t pile after hanging out with, um, less strident ("He said 'strident'!") people for a while!
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The wife probably limited his internet access.
At least I got a wife...bless her soul.
But happiness is a warm gun, I know.

PS: Been reading books, magazines, the NYT....
No you weren't really missed. You should take more extended vacations........with the wife.
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Look at the video again. Both officers were pushing the guy away. The cop was just being an asshole, for which he will have to answer for.
So if you read my post you'll notice that I said I don't have the benefit of seeing what happened in the minutes or seconds before. Video is great, but it often doesn't tell the whole story.
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So if you read my post you'll notice that I said I don't have the benefit of seeing what happened in the minutes or seconds before. Video is great, but it often doesn't tell the whole story.
In fairness, even if there were 100% of the video, it still would not tell the whole story, simply because a video cannot tell what anyone is thinking. As I have stated before, he will have to answer for his actions. And I agree with Sedan, that his buddies, in essence, helped him by stopping him.
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No you weren't really missed. You should take more extended vacations........with the wife.
I should take more extended vacations, but we think covid is real.
Have you gotten out of downtown LA recently, with a companion of your choice (I would hate to dictate who or what that may be)?
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