E92 vs 2015 370z Nizmo

httorihanzo · 09-18-2016, 10:12 AM

Wondering about the comparison in handling between the E92 (I have a 2008) and 2015 or newer 370z Nismo. I know the 370z is going to leave you wanting for power but Assume the much newer Top of the line Z handles nicely in comparison.

Amirsm3 · 09-18-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by httorihanzo

Wondering about the comparison in handling between the E92 (I have a 2008) and 2015 or newer 370z Nismo. I know the 370z is going to leave you wanting for power but Assume the much newer Top of the line Z handles nicely in comparison.

handling under what context? Z cars are pretty competent and can wear a lot of hats (aside from the brakes several years ago

).

I used to call my HR Z the Jack of All Trade, Master of None. It didn't really excel at anything it did, but it also wasn't absolutely terrible aside from the shitty cargo area, lmao.

httorihanzo · 09-18-2016, 11:13 AM

Let's say both cars were on a short circuit where the power advantage wasn't an issue and it all came down to the ability to handle the corners.

Amirsm3 · 09-18-2016, 11:17 AM

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Let's say both cars were on a short circuit where the power advantage wasn't an issue and it all came down to the ability to handle the corners.

I'd say it came down to driver skill if my memory serves me correct about the various 370Z's I've driven.

httorihanzo · 09-18-2016, 11:20 AM

Z is 400lbs light correct?

httorihanzo · 09-18-2016, 11:23 AM

Yea that's 100% correct. I've known a spec Miata that lapped faster than a z06 on a short track but the driver was superb compared to the ZO6. But I'm wondering about general characteristics. 300-400lbs light to me and 8 years newer make me think in paper the Z has the handling advantage.

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I'd say it came down to driver skill if my memory serves me correct about the various 370Z's I've driven.

Amirsm3 · 09-18-2016, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by httorihanzo

Yea that's 100% correct. I've known a spec Miata that lapped faster than a z06 on a short track but the driver was superb compared to the ZO6. But I'm wondering about general characteristics. 300-400lbs light to me and 8 years newer make me think in paper the Z has the handling advantage.

Oh absolutely. Get that M to factory fresh (new bushings, shocks etc) and I bet it brings the M back to level playing field - even with the weight disadvantage.

Rat3d ///M · 09-18-2016, 01:10 PM

sounds like you made the wrong choice going with the M. Go get yourself a Datsun.

Bucki14 · 09-19-2016, 07:29 AM

I would rather upgrade the m3 in the handling areas, over buying a nismo 370z. Not a logical move at all, from my perspective. As "new" as this nismo may be, its tech is still about as old as the m. The 370z is ancient platform desperately needing a replacement.

Wait are you in a e92 m3 or a 335i? if so get an m3...

Mspired · 09-19-2016, 10:56 AM

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Wait are you in a e92 m3 or a 335i? if so get an m3...

This..

Your sig in the original post says 08 335, yet your avatar is an M and you're posting in the M3 section.

Please clarify what you drive!!

Rat3d ///M · 09-19-2016, 11:53 AM

Oh Christ OP doesn't even have an M? 335s are cool and all for a daily driver or family car but I would never own one in any kind of performance oriented capacity.

iBoosted · 09-19-2016, 12:08 PM

370z understeers too much from factory to be on the same level, I've never had much trouble with one on track but never ran with a very skilled driver either.

335i vs 370z might be a different story....

httorihanzo · 09-19-2016, 01:02 PM

Oh Christ some ass bag who chose not to participate in the original discussion is being awefully judemental. "oh christ he doesnt even own an M, eew what a loser"

Oh christ, please go troll someone else.

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Oh Christ OP doesn't even have an M? 335s are cool and all for a daily driver or family car but I would never own one in any kind of performance oriented capacity.

httorihanzo · 09-19-2016, 01:04 PM

I asked the question about the M. I currently own an E92 M. My signature is 6 years old and I had a 335i in the past but never updated my signature.

I drive a 2008 BMW M3. Apologize for the confusion, I do not currently have a 335.

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This..

Your sig in the original post says 08 335, yet your avatar is an M and you're posting in the M3 section.

Please clarify what you drive!!

httorihanzo · 09-19-2016, 01:08 PM

Do people really react like this to others in this forum? what a sarcastic shyt bag.

We drive M3's yet this guy acts like he is sitting at a lambo dealership picking up his new Aventador. "Lambo was the wrong choice, go pick your self up a BMW, LOL"

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sounds like you made the wrong choice going with the M. Go get yourself a Datsun.

httorihanzo · 09-19-2016, 01:10 PM

Thank you for addressing the original post. This is the type of feedback I wanted to hear, I didnt know about the factory understeer.

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370z understeers too much from factory to be on the same level, I've never had much trouble with one on track but never ran with a very skilled driver either.

335i vs 370z might be a different story....

httorihanzo · 09-19-2016, 01:15 PM

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I would never own one in any kind of performance oriented capacity.

I feel the same way about sedans.

Rat3d ///M · 09-19-2016, 01:39 PM

httorihanzo: I sense some hostility in your many replies to my posts. Apparently you have a tendency to take the internet a little too serious. This is an online forum, not high school.

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I feel the same way about sedans.

Cool bruh

Z K · 09-20-2016, 03:42 PM

I've seen very fast 370Z Nismo's on track. In the right hands, it makes the M3 look like a joke. But then I find most 370Z owners to not be as skilled drivers...

Same can be said for modified S2000s, they pretty much dominate everything on tracks that I've been to.

Still, you're comparing apples to oranges. The 370Z Nismo is kinda built for track duty. The M3 is a GT car and much more comfortable for every day use and easy to drive fast.

Manda Mew · 09-20-2016, 05:23 PM

We used to have a 370Z and shared it as our ONLY car (including Costco trips, traveling with 2 dogs, road trips...). It has a really cool stick shift rev matching feature that is really cool and never once turned it off.
It really is a car that you just fall in love with, one of those that you have fond memories of forever. It is so easy to drive, much easier than the M3. You won't feel that the suspension is lacking at all, but the stock tires are terrible (idk about the nismo) and there is a lot of road noise. They're also very rare and the nismos hold their value well. It's a much more simple car, no different drive modes or comfort settings. But since you talked about the track you have to know that the Z is not ready for the track. I'm not sure if they changed it in later years but we bought oil cooler, brake ducts and better brake fluid just for aggressive street driving. If you have any specific questions let me know

I miss that car a lot actually.

Killerfish2012 · 09-20-2016, 11:29 PM

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Wondering about the comparison in handling between the E92 (I have a 2008) and 2015 or newer 370z Nismo. I know the 370z is going to leave you wanting for power but Assume the much newer Top of the line Z handles nicely in comparison.

U talking track, or street?

Golddots · 09-21-2016, 04:11 AM

I'd say the 370z would be quicker on an autocross or a short track course with a competent driver running both cars back to back. As the speeds pick up on a road course like VIR, the m3 would have more of an advantage.

One car is a lighter sports car and the other is a sports sedan. It's not obvious that a 370z would "handle" better than the m3?

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Bucki14 Lieutenant 156 Rep 509 Posts Drives: M3 DCT \| Novitec Ferrari FF Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	I would rather upgrade the m3 in the handling areas, over buying a nismo 370z. Not a logical move at all, from my perspective. As "new" as this nismo may be, its tech is still about as old as the m. The 370z is ancient platform desperately needing a replacement. Wait are you in a e92 m3 or a 335i? if so get an m3... __________________ 2010 e92 m3 \| Apex Arc-8 \| Remus Race Exhaust & Macht Schnell Xpipe \| KW V2 Clubsport \| Carbon Fiber Driveshaft \| SPL Suspension Upgrade\| BBK F/R \| ESS VT2 625 \| Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boostedtrav_/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/boostedtrav Last edited by Bucki14; 09-19-2016 at 07:31 AM.. Reason: what car?
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Z K Major General 1889 Rep 5,506 Posts Drives: E90 M3, G20 M340i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (3)	I've seen very fast 370Z Nismo's on track. In the right hands, it makes the M3 look like a joke. But then I find most 370Z owners to not be as skilled drivers... Same can be said for modified S2000s, they pretty much dominate everything on tracks that I've been to. Still, you're comparing apples to oranges. The 370Z Nismo is kinda built for track duty. The M3 is a GT car and much more comfortable for every day use and easy to drive fast. __________________ Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
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Golddots Second Lieutenant 85 Rep 280 Posts Drives: e90 m3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: nova iTrader: (1)	I'd say the 370z would be quicker on an autocross or a short track course with a competent driver running both cars back to back. As the speeds pick up on a road course like VIR, the m3 would have more of an advantage. One car is a lighter sports car and the other is a sports sedan. It's not obvious that a 370z would "handle" better than the m3?
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