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06-23-2011, 09:20 AM | #67 |
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06-23-2011, 09:25 AM | #68 |
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The dealership reclaims money spent on warranty work from BMW so they couldn't care less.
Given how litigious N. America is, its reasonable to assume the engineer that BMW sent to inspect the car had a good case to reject the damage as not covered by the warranty. |
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06-23-2011, 11:36 PM | #71 | |
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There is obviously more going on here. Maybe he had some broken bolts and the drop caused the remaining bolts to fail and blew the subframe causing a diff failure. But who knows?
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06-23-2011, 11:39 PM | #72 |
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Yes, no mention was made by the OP as to what reasoning the dealer gave. What was done to the car that caused them to void his warranty? We need more details.
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06-24-2011, 02:02 PM | #73 | |
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On topic - I dunno, this is like the third or fourth time I've seen a thread about this kind of failure on here. I'm starting to wonder if there may be something more to this than just "abuse". It's been a while but I can't think of any shared mounting pieces between the rear suspension, subframe, and the exhaust. Nor do I recall it being necessary to do anything with the rear suspension in order to install or remove an exhaust. Anyone got pics to confirm?
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06-24-2011, 02:11 PM | #74 |
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There are two brackets holding the exhaust to the rear frame and diff. They are mounted with two studs and two nuts. You remove the nuts to drop the metal hangers for the exhaust; the studs stay in the frame and the diff on the studs. If you don't put the nuts on tight enough, I guess the diff could slide off the studs. I don't see the connection with the front subframe though. Although I guess if someone were misguided, they might potentially start screwing around with the tranny in the front when installing the front section of the exhaust. Maybe they just found several dents to the front subframe or a huge one and said - well, this is clearly abuse. Which it pretty much is - I mean they will ask you if you were in an accident if they find damage. If you weren't in an accident, then how did it happen? Last edited by Singletrack; 06-24-2011 at 07:42 PM.. |
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If I can give you a little advice, Before you do decide to go to a lawyer, next time you go to your dealer, bring along some official M3 marketing material of the cars on race tracks.
Ask them to explain wtf they are doing advertising like that, if they won't accept responsability if a car breaks because of "driving style" |
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Don't bother doing this. Waste of time. That little "abuse" clause in your warranty guide can be tossed around and bent to their will. It's a little bizarre. If there's evidence your car has been repeatedly launched via system log, I'd kiss your warranty goodbye but who knows.
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What exactly is wheel hop? Is it the 'chirping' in between shifts when you dump clutch?
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This is not something you see in normal road racing that you could argue an M3 was kinda meant for. It's also not a fast way to get off the line, so you won't see it often in World Challenge or DTM, even though they have to do a hard launch to start each race.
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Hopefully he's working something out with the dealer and is holding off on commenting until he learns more.
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or BMW NA took him out back and offed him for making noise about the warranty claim ;-)
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