Tire Recommendations

essey · 11-06-2016, 10:01 PM

Hi everyone,
i live in washington DC where we have relatively mild winters with very little snow so i was thinking of getting 'all weather' tires instead of snow tires. what do you all think ? also should i get run-flat tires or a regular tire. i currently have 18-inch michelin run-flat summer tires (245/40ZR18 and 265/40ZR16)
thanks
essey

kamber · 11-06-2016, 10:18 PM

I just recently decided to get a set of Michelin A/S 3+ tires for my new Volks. I'm in WA and in the same boat as you; relatively mild winters with little snow. Infact, my wife is from the DC area and I grew up just up the coast in NJ; my choice of tire would remain the same if I was still back on the East Coast. My car is a daily driver and sees zero track usage, so I don't anticipate ever wanting for more grip than the A/S 3+ can provide for regular or even spirited street driving. Continental DWS06 tires were my runner-up choice. I'm 100% opposed to RFT's due to how bad they are as far as NVH is concerned. Goodluck with your search!

essey · 11-15-2016, 10:10 PM

thanks for your input

WingZeroX5 · 11-16-2016, 07:18 AM

Get a set of all season

Then find a dedicated winter set

dparm · 11-16-2016, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by essey

Hi everyone,
i live in washington DC where we have relatively mild winters with very little snow so i was thinking of getting 'all weather' tires instead of snow tires. what do you all think ? also should i get run-flat tires or a regular tire. i currently have 18-inch michelin run-flat summer tires (245/40ZR18 and 265/40ZR16)
thanks
essey

The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3, as others have mentioned, should be more than enough tire for a DD. I wouldn't be taking them to the track every weekend, but they're still fine for spirited driving.

It's not going to beat dedicated winter tires when there is snow, but I understand the economics of not dropping $1500+ on dedicated winter tires/wheels.

raisingAnarchy · 11-17-2016, 03:16 PM

Nokian created the all-weather tire category (not to be confused with all-season) with the WRG3. You might consider looking at those? Might be a bit more expensive than the Pilot A/S, but Nokian is a very reputable tire manufacturer.

Theodore · 12-10-2016, 08:58 PM

I just put a set of the new Michelin A/S 3"+" tires on last month and I'm super impressed. They are performing even better than my 3 year old P-Zeros were on the warmer days and still did great on a recent road trip to cold weather. Can't vouch for their light snow performance, but the manufacturer advertises it has 28% more traction in those conditions then their own previous A/S 3 design. And skip the run flats, you will like the ride a lot more.

aus · 12-11-2016, 08:55 AM

Just understand an All Season tire tends to still suck in the snow.
Get snow tires for the stock wheels and a second set of wheels with some Summer performance tires. It's not hard to swap them out.

lutfy · 01-02-2017, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by essey

Hi everyone,
i live in washington DC where we have relatively mild winters with very little snow so i was thinking of getting 'all weather' tires instead of snow tires. what do you all think ? also should i get run-flat tires or a regular tire. i currently have 18-inch michelin run-flat summer tires (245/40ZR18 and 265/40ZR16)
thanks
essey

My first set of AS3 were amazing (am in DC as well). But they wore out quickly... 15k miles granted I did use them for two weekends on the track (and they were amazing). The AS3 plus are supposed to last longer. 45k miles front and 27.5k rears.

They are years ahead of many summer tires. Plenty good for light D.C. Snow and no drama when cold. Jack of all honestly.

I do use a dedicated track setup otherwise these are my go to daily driver.

Only diff between PSS and these are that the sidewalks are a little softer. That's OK because the roads are pretty crappy.

Did buy again and very pleased.

Lutfy

mvestor · 03-02-2017, 09:22 AM

For those that have mounted the A/S 3+, the sidewall looks thicker that a PSS or DW ExtremeContact. I guess I am a little worried about it looking strange on a 19" wheel. Can anyone confirm?

R3dliner · 03-02-2017, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by zhpfanatic

For those that have mounted the A/S 3+, the sidewall looks thicker that a PSS or DW ExtremeContact. I guess I am a little worried about it looking strange on a 19" wheel. Can anyone confirm?

+1 on the A/S 3 +. I have it mounted to my zcps and they are fine.

dparm · 03-02-2017, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zhpfanatic

For those that have mounted the A/S 3+, the sidewall looks thicker that a PSS or DW ExtremeContact. I guess I am a little worried about it looking strange on a 19" wheel. Can anyone confirm?

Some tires have a more rounded-off sidewall which tends to make it look taller. Conversely, tires with more squared-off sidewalls tend to look more rubber band-like.

I've always speculated that a more rounded-off sidewall makes the tire break away more progressively at the limits but reduces those limits slightly.

slicer · 03-03-2017, 07:33 PM

What is the point of getting a performance car if you don't run performance tires? My vote is to get summer tires and all-season or winter tires for the cold months.

pbonsalb · 03-04-2017, 07:44 AM

Most buyers probably never get anywhere close to the cars potential. I have summer and winter wheels for all 3 cars. The Michelin pilot sport as3 are supposed to be very good for all seasons -- close to some of the summer tires.

11-06-2016, 10:01 PM	#1
essey Registered 1 Rep 2 Posts Drives: bmw e90 m3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: washington dc iTrader: (0)	Tire Recommendations Hi everyone, i live in washington DC where we have relatively mild winters with very little snow so i was thinking of getting 'all weather' tires instead of snow tires. what do you all think ? also should i get run-flat tires or a regular tire. i currently have 18-inch michelin run-flat summer tires (245/40ZR18 and 265/40ZR16) thanks essey
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11-06-2016, 10:18 PM	#2
kamber E90 167 Rep 821 Posts Drives: '08 M3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: NJ iTrader: (7)	I just recently decided to get a set of Michelin A/S 3+ tires for my new Volks. I'm in WA and in the same boat as you; relatively mild winters with little snow. Infact, my wife is from the DC area and I grew up just up the coast in NJ; my choice of tire would remain the same if I was still back on the East Coast. My car is a daily driver and sees zero track usage, so I don't anticipate ever wanting for more grip than the A/S 3+ can provide for regular or even spirited street driving. Continental DWS06 tires were my runner-up choice. I'm 100% opposed to RFT's due to how bad they are as far as NVH is concerned. Goodluck with your search!
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11-15-2016, 10:10 PM	#3
essey Registered 1 Rep 2 Posts Drives: bmw e90 m3 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: washington dc iTrader: (0)	thanks for your input
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11-16-2016, 07:18 AM	#4
WingZeroX5 Colonel 766 Rep 2,361 Posts Drives: F80 / F30 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (14)	Get a set of all season Then find a dedicated winter set
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11-17-2016, 03:16 PM	#6
raisingAnarchy Private First Class 22 Rep 106 Posts Drives: E90 ZMT Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: OH iTrader: (0)	Nokian created the all-weather tire category (not to be confused with all-season) with the WRG3. You might consider looking at those? Might be a bit more expensive than the Pilot A/S, but Nokian is a very reputable tire manufacturer. __________________ 2011 E90 328i xDrive ZMT, ZCW --2008 E90 328i 6AT Sold
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12-10-2016, 08:58 PM	#7
Theodore Lieutenant 669 Rep 412 Posts Drives: 2011.5 E92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Tampa Bay, FL iTrader: (6)	I just put a set of the new Michelin A/S 3"+" tires on last month and I'm super impressed. They are performing even better than my 3 year old P-Zeros were on the warmer days and still did great on a recent road trip to cold weather. Can't vouch for their light snow performance, but the manufacturer advertises it has 28% more traction in those conditions then their own previous A/S 3 design. And skip the run flats, you will like the ride a lot more.
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12-11-2016, 08:55 AM	#8
aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Just understand an All Season tire tends to still suck in the snow. Get snow tires for the stock wheels and a second set of wheels with some Summer performance tires. It's not hard to swap them out. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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03-02-2017, 09:22 AM	#10
mvestor Private 36 Rep 73 Posts Drives: E90 M3 & E92 M3, E86 M Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Central Florida iTrader: (0)	Michelin A/S 3+ For those that have mounted the A/S 3+, the sidewall looks thicker that a PSS or DW ExtremeContact. I guess I am a little worried about it looking strange on a 19" wheel. Can anyone confirm?
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slicer Major General 2738 Rep 6,734 Posts Drives: 'E46 M3 Race Car, '23 X7 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wisconsin - Instagram - @slicer_m iTrader: (39)	What is the point of getting a performance car if you don't run performance tires? My vote is to get summer tires and all-season or winter tires for the cold months. __________________ '23 X7 '04 M3 - Fall Line Motorsports Built Race Car - S65 swap, Dry Sump, Bosch Stand-Alone ECU, Drenth Sequential Trans, MCS 3-Way, Flossmann Wide Body, Brembo Motorsports Brakes, Drexler LSD, BBS E88 Etc. INSTAGRAM - @Slicer_M
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03-04-2017, 07:44 AM	#14
pbonsalb Lieutenant General 5231 Rep 10,614 Posts Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (4)	Most buyers probably never get anywhere close to the cars potential. I have summer and winter wheels for all 3 cars. The Michelin pilot sport as3 are supposed to be very good for all seasons -- close to some of the summer tires.
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