What performance car would replace your M3?

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

The current Republican administration agrees with you.

Well since you’re looking for an E9X M3 I guess after consideration I’d be willing to straight swap for one of your P-cars

[Mjhyslop]

Originally Posted by tdott

A 911 GT3 is probably the only one that would satisfy my desires right now.

For under $40k, nothing. I’d keep my M3 until I can afford something better.

+1 my next car I hope to buy 4-5 years from now is a current gen gt3. Don't plan on ever selling my frozen white e92!

[roastbeef]

Originally Posted by GeorgeA

Cayman's and 997 Carreras seem like a performance downgrade from the E92 M. Having driven both, I would never take it over my M.

the cayman whispers to me every time i see it. lol i'm going to wind up with a cayman gt4 at some point in my life, but it isn't replacing the m3, it is just joining the family.

i had a hell of a time keeping up with a new cayman gts with nt01's. they are pretty even with us as far as performance goes while wearing the same tires- even in the straights.

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by EJT86

I think it’s a lil uneven to ask what 40k car would you take to replace a 65k car which the M3 was built as.

Not if you are the guy who bought the $65k car used for $40k because $40k is your budget for a new or used car.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Not if you are the guy who bought the $65k car used for $40k because $40k is your budget for a new or used car.

right but the car was built on par with 65k cars it wasnt built to rival a brand new STi for 40k so theres always going to be a big gap no matter how much it depreciated. a Gallardo can be had for about 90k now but i dont think theres many 90k cars that can rival a Gallardo because it wasnt built to be in that bracket

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by GeorgeA

Cayman's and 997 Carreras seem like a performance downgrade from the E92 M. Having driven both, I would never take it over my M.

Aligned

I'm still waiting to find a fast one (includes the GT4)... any day now...

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

For the track, I have a 991 GT3, and a 991 Turbo S. Yet I am currently shopping for a e92 M3 DCT. Because it is one of the best cars period...at ANY price. Perhaps the best all-around car ever made.

The thing is you have deep pockets and can afford whatever you want within reason, so you don't live with the stigma of 'I need a P car or I'm worthless'.

I would never take any Cayman or 997 GT3 over the M3. I've driven them on track and am not impressed at all.




To answer the thread, I don't really see anything substituting the E9X M3. I have two and wish I could get a third one. I also like the M5/6 but dislike the turbo engine. Maybe the M4 GTS, but that isn't really a daily driver and is also turbo.

[G80indy]

After driving it, 718 Cayman S
If push came to shove

[GeorgeA]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

the cayman whispers to me every time i see it. lol i'm going to wind up with a cayman gt4 at some point in my life, but it isn't replacing the m3, it is just joining the family.

i had a hell of a time keeping up with a new cayman gts with nt01's. they are pretty even with us as far as performance goes while wearing the same tires- even in the straights.

Yes, the GT4 does seem really appealing! I was talking about older caymans, more in line with e92 M prices. I was going against a 991 Carrera S at Streets of Willow and besides it being quicker on the straights, I had him on the corners. I passing him, he did a stupid pass at the end of the straight then after getting into his bumper for a corner, he spun. I wasn't too impressed by its capabilities or the driver's. GT3 is a different story of course. If driven properly, the E92 can be very fast on tracks and it's so nicely balanced, its just a joy to drive regardless of its speed. My issue is finding that sort of balance, the ease of getting this car to rotate and even getting it sideways, that's the type of balance I'm looking for in my next car.

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by EJT86

right but the car was built on par with 65k cars it wasnt built to rival a brand new STi for 40k so theres always going to be a big gap no matter how much it depreciated. a Gallardo can be had for about 90k now but i dont think theres many 90k cars that can rival a Gallardo because it wasnt built to be in that bracket

The guy who spent $40k on the used M3 will probably apply his $40k replacement budget to another used $40k car, but if he wants to compare to a $40k new car that is fine although it may not have the performance of the depreciated used car. As long as you compare apples to apples it works. If you bought your car new for $65k and that is your budget for your next car, see what you can buy used it new for $65k.

If you want to compare used $90k cars, then compare used $90k cars. A Porsche 997.2TT PDK with some mods can be had for $90k and rival the stock Gallardo you might buy used for $90k. Hopefully, though, none of us paid $90k for our E9M3.

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by GeorgeA

I was going against a 991 Carrera S at Streets of Willow and besides it being quicker on the straights, I had him on the corners. I passing him, he did a stupid pass at the end of the straight then after getting into his bumper for a corner, he spun. I wasn't too impressed by its capabilities or the driver's.

I think you would be impressed by a properly driven 991.1 CS. With equal drivers, it would likely fly away from you. But then again, it's twice the price, less practical, and sounds worse (even the NA 991.1). A 991.2 is crazy fast.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

The guy who spent $40k on the used M3 will probably apply his $40k replacement budget to another used $40k car, but if he wants to compare to a $40k new car that is fine although it may not have the performance of the depreciated used car. As long as you compare apples to apples it works. If you bought your car new for $65k and that is your budget for your next car, see what you can buy used it new for $65k.

If you want to compare used $90k cars, then compare used $90k cars. A Porsche 997.2TT PDK with some mods can be had for $90k and rival the stock Gallardo you might buy used for $90k. Hopefully, though, none of us paid $90k for our E9M3.

i get all that im just saying in terms of a formidable replacement 40k wont satisfy replacing a car that was built to rival 65k. cant buy a TV for 2K and 5 years later say what $600 TV will replace it...nothing the only satisfying replacement is the exact same depreciated used model anything else is always going to be a downgrade. so basically its a choice between an ISF, a four door C63, idk what used RS5s go for, and if none of us chose that car in the first place i doubt anyones choosing it now as a replacement

[GeorgeA]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

I think you would be impressed by a properly driven 991.1 CS. With equal drivers, it would likely fly away from you. But then again, it's twice the price, less practical, and sounds worse (even the NA 991.1). A 991.2 is crazy fast.

True, driver mod is the most important on tracks

I heard the 991.2 CS with the sport package is really quick. But I also heard you can't fully defeat traction control according to a drift instructor, I was sort of turned off by that.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by GeorgeA

True, driver mod is the most important on tracks

I heard the 991.2 CS with the sport package is really quick. But I also heard you can't fully defeat traction control according to a drift instructor, I was sort of turned off by that.

No 991's can run slicks either, or fully disable nannies

One day I'll understand how a 150k GT3 has 'don't use slicks' in the manual

[HadesM3]

It seems the GT3 comes up often as the apparent UPGRADE for the e90/92 M3.

I’d love a 2007 997 GT3, but these are still in the $80-90k range today. Crazy how they have held their value over 10 years.

For this amount of money, wouldn’t a used full tilt 2016 c7 Z06 w/z07 package be a better choice than an ancient 2007 GT3? Cheaper too.

[opihi5]

C6 z06, c63 amg, 335d

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

No 991's can run slicks either, or fully disable nannies

One day I'll understand how a 150k GT3 has 'don't use slicks' in the manual

The lateral G's derived with slicks on the 991 GT3 could potentially cause oil starvation IIRC. But here's the thing. You can turn it into a dedicated race car, just don't use slicks, and Porsche won't void your warranty. That is pretty amazing.

[skl007]

I upgraded to a GT-R, but I also kept the M, does that count?

The M3 is a fantastic summer daily, I want to keep this thing forever.

[Helmsman]

Originally Posted by skl007

I upgraded to a GT-R, but I also kept the M, does that count?

The M3 is a fantastic summer daily, I want to keep this thing forever.

Yes.

[EJT86]

Originally Posted by skl007

I upgraded to a GT-R, but I also kept the M, does that count?

The M3 is a fantastic summer daily, I want to keep this thing forever.

i doubt you paid 40k

[skl007]

Originally Posted by EJT86

i doubt you paid 40k

This is true

[BMWNORTHAMERICA]

So hard to beat the E90/E92 M3's for the price. 997 Porsche 911 S maybe, or a F10 M5. There is really nothing out there that is as great as the E90/E92 M3. The S65 is something else, puts a smile on my face every time I hear it's music. Not too many cars if any in that price range that can do that. Keep the E90 M3 or sell and buy a E92 M3.