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      10-21-2016, 03:59 PM   #1
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1.75 OEM Exhaust MOD

For those who are thinking about buying an expensive performance exhaust to achieve better sound - an oem exhaust mod could be an easy and cheap way - ofcourse if you believe that 420 hp is enough.....




And cabin sound - no drone at all

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      10-22-2016, 01:17 PM   #2
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nice, thanks for the great vids/audio.
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      10-22-2016, 01:41 PM   #3
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Whats wrong with the 2 pipe mate, no drone what so ever, could even had a tad more juice!
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      10-23-2016, 09:28 AM   #4
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Whats wrong with the 2 pipe mate, no drone what so ever, could even had a tad more juice!
My dear Swedish Brother....

The Two pipe i just a bit louder - and my goal was to get as close to the MPE sound signature as possible. And the 1.75 is quite close to that.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2-pipe mode - I know that the drone is NOT present there as well.

Do you have the 2-pipe mod, Helmsman ?

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      10-23-2016, 09:47 AM   #5
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thanks for posting saxodreng! More options for the OEM mod are always a
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      10-23-2016, 04:54 PM   #6
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Can you explain what exactly you did with stock muffer? I didn't understand it on video. Thanks.
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      10-24-2016, 06:26 PM   #7
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Can you explain what exactly you did with stock muffer? I didn't understand it on video. Thanks.
There is a good explanation in this video - the video shows althoug a 2.5 mod - take a look again in my video where the drawing shows how the 1.75 mod is to be wrapped, but the the overall procedure is the same.

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Thanks for the explanation.

Two more questions.

Did you put all the hairs back inside the muffer?
Did you release from hears small perforated pipes?
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      11-16-2016, 03:32 PM   #9
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My dear Swedish Brother....

The Two pipe i just a bit louder - and my goal was to get as close to the MPE sound signature as possible. And the 1.75 is quite close to that.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 2-pipe mode - I know that the drone is NOT present there as well.

Do you have the 2-pipe mod, Helmsman ?

Sorry for being late back broder. Yep, 2 pipe since a couple of years and no regrets!
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      11-23-2016, 04:55 AM   #10
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Thanks for the explanation.

Two more questions.

Did you put all the hairs back inside the muffer?
Did you release from hears small perforated pipes?
Yes all "hair" back in
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      11-28-2020, 04:47 PM   #11
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Sorry to resurrect this old thread after so many years. Thank you saxondreng for very helpful information. I believe the sound I'm looking for is something less than 2-pipe mod. I've heard of 1.75 or 1.8 pipe before and it's helpful to see how it's done.

My exhaust specialist recommends to weld in new non-perforated pipes rather than wrap because wrap doesn't hold up over time, especially with backfires. So that might make it challenging to do less than a 2 pipe mod. If I go with 1.5 pipe, I'm wondering if the remaining perfs should be nearest the back or in the middle?

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      11-30-2020, 05:40 AM   #12
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Sorry to resurrect this old thread after so many years. Thank you saxondreng for very helpful information. I believe the sound I'm looking for is something less than 2-pipe mod. I've heard of 1.75 or 1.8 pipe before and it's helpful to see how it's done.

My exhaust specialist recommends to weld in new non-perforated pipes rather than wrap because wrap doesn't hold up over time, especially with backfires. So that might make it challenging to do less than a 2 pipe mod. If I go with 1.5 pipe, I'm wondering if the remaining perfs should be nearest the back or in the middle?
The Wrapping method actually allows the "Roll-back" option....

The 1.75 MOD suits me just perfect - these MOD has many names. Me and many others prefer to count the MOD per Chamber. Of course the MOD is done in both chambers - and therefore som call the 2-pipe MOD for a 4 Pipe MOD witch is actually the same.

Whether you do the Wrap-method or swapping the pipes gets you there - but I recommend you to perforate at least a bit of one of the pipes per chamber - just to ensure that you can live with the result. That little bit of perforation just take the top of the resonance - when daily driving. Acceleration sound is almost the same as the complete 2/4-pipe MOD anyway.
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      11-30-2020, 06:17 PM   #13
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Thanks for this extra information saxonreng. Some people say a 4 pipe mod is perfect. Others love the 2 pipe. Others enjoy less. I want something mild, therefore I relate to the person who said they found the 2 pipe mod way too loud for a family daily drive. That person changed to 1 pipe - meaning 1/2 the pipe on each side - and love it.

I will settle for something between 1 and 1.5 pipe mod - meaning wrapping or replacing between 50% - 75% of the perfs on each side. I have the luxury of owning a second back section that I bought used. So if I don't like it, I can swap back to stock while I rethink things.

Does it matter in what place along the tube the remaining perforations are left? End or middle?
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      11-30-2020, 06:54 PM   #14
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Thanks for this extra information saxonreng. Some people say a 4 pipe mod is perfect. Others love the 2 pipe. Others enjoy less. I want something mild, therefore I relate to the person who said they found the 2 pipe mod way too loud for a family daily drive. That person changed to 1 pipe - meaning 1/2 the pipe on each side - and love it.

I will settle for something between 1 and 1.5 pipe mod - meaning wrapping or replacing between 50% - 75% of the perfs on each side. I have the luxury of owning a second back section that I bought used. So if I don't like it, I can swap back to stock while I rethink things.

Does it matter in what place along the tube the remaining perforations are left? End or middle?
I don't get it. With the windows up driving normally with 2 pipe the car sounds like anything else on the road.
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      11-30-2020, 09:59 PM   #15
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I don't get it. With the windows up driving normally with 2 pipe the car sounds like anything else on the road.
Thanks for the feedback
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I don't get it. With the windows up driving normally with 2 pipe the car sounds like anything else on the road.
Thanks for the feedback
I guess it's worth noting the cold start is louder which can't be avoided "with the family" unless you get a tune to code out the cold start routine.
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      12-01-2020, 03:33 AM   #17
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I don't get it. With the windows up driving normally with 2 pipe the car sounds like anything else on the road.
The sound note between the 1.5 / 1.75 and the full 2-pipe MOD is almost the same when driving normal. The difference only come out when hard accelerating above 4000 RPM.

I think it is cool to have a car that can blend in and not shouting all the time....
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The sound note between the 1.5 / 1.75 and the full 2-pipe MOD is almost the same when driving normal. The difference only come out when hard accelerating above 4000 RPM.

I think it is cool to have a car that can blend in and not shouting all the time....
What would be really cool would be to have a length of solid pipe that could slide back and forwards to cover or uncover the perforations. If this could be electrically operated, it would be a new version of a valved exhaust! Hahaha
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The sound note between the 1.5 / 1.75 and the full 2-pipe MOD is almost the same when driving normal. The difference only come out when hard accelerating above 4000 RPM.

I think it is cool to have a car that can blend in and not shouting all the time....
What would be really cool would be to have a length of solid pipe that could slide back and forwards to cover or uncover the perforations. If this could be electrically operated, it would be a new version of a valved exhaust! Hahaha
Now that would be cool!
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I am a "hate obnoxious loud exhaust" person and have the 2-pipe mod. It is not loud. Not even close. I can't imagine someone saying the 2-pipe is too loud, but I know this is an individual taste.
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