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      11-06-2020, 07:10 AM   #23
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I ended up with a stock felt piece from FCPEuro for the lifetime replacements.

Nothing beats lightweight and easier to remove.
Same I ended up with a brand new oem assembly, I would say my car is fairly low and im in NYC, im not sure how these guys on here drive your cars for these underpanels to get destroyed in such a small space of time.


fwiw IMO, I kept the felt underpanel on my car because if I were to run something over it would destroy the felt as opposed to destroying the metal underpanel and having it take out other components under the car.
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Same I ended up with a brand new oem assembly, I would say my car is fairly low and im in NYC, im not sure how these guys on here drive your cars for these underpanels to get destroyed in such a small space of time.


fwiw IMO, I kept the felt underpanel on my car because if I were to run something over it would destroy the felt as opposed to destroying the metal underpanel and having it take out other components under the car.
I completely agree. While the felt is lower, outside of driveways, there isn't a large issue of scraping the felt for me personally. That said, I'm not as low as most folks here.

A large reason I wanted to retain the felt is because it is design to fail when hit to protect the other components. When I spun out at Laguna, my under tray got ripped apart yet the fasteners for the tray to the bumper were still there with no damage to the bumper.

I don't know if the extra "aero" downforce from the undertray is worth anything either but I definitely felt a difference on my way home without it.
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Same I ended up with a brand new oem assembly, I would say my car is fairly low and im in NYC, im not sure how these guys on here drive your cars for these underpanels to get destroyed in such a small space of time.


fwiw IMO, I kept the felt underpanel on my car because if I were to run something over it would destroy the felt as opposed to destroying the metal underpanel and having it take out other components under the car.
I agree, I really don't see how they can be running over things all the time. Maybe it's time to get the eyes checked or get new eyeglasses.


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I completely agree. While the felt is lower, outside of driveways, there isn't a large issue of scraping the felt for me personally. That said, I'm not as low as most folks here.

A large reason I wanted to retain the felt is because it is design to fail when hit to protect the other components. When I spun out at Laguna, my under tray got ripped apart yet the fasteners for the tray to the bumper were still there with no damage to the bumper.

I don't know if the extra "aero" downforce from the undertray is worth anything either but I definitely felt a difference on my way home without it.
You bring up another great point with the aero. They also designed that undertray with getting air to and out of the oil cooler in mind too.

The Turner one is bolted to the frame, I can't imagine what would happen if you had that one on your car when you spun.
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I agree, I really don't see how they can be running over things all the time. Maybe it's time to get the eyes checked or get new eyeglasses.




You bring up another great point with the aero. They also designed that undertray with getting air to and out of the oil cooler in mind too.

The Turner one is bolted to the frame, I can't imagine what would happen if you had that one on your car when you spun.
Most undertrays have the cooler openings like the stock one so I think that is okay for the metal ones.

I'm not sure either. I assume the additional clearance would've reduce the amount of damage when going into the gravel trap and the extra rigidity would have resisted some damage. If the energy of say a hit to the wall was higher, I would imagine the Turner under tray would transfer a lot of that energy towards the frame connection points as well. I may be overthinking the damage aspect as chassis-mounted splitters on race cars seem to be okay lol.
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Most undertrays have the cooler openings like the stock one so I think that is okay for the metal ones.

Yeah, there is an opening there. But I am mostly referring to how the shape of the undertray helps draws air in and out of the cooler.
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I have the mporium and like most aftermarket skid plates, it sits nearly flat. Nothing protruding out like the oem felt pieces. If you're driving low enough to the point where something you hit will damage the plate, any underpart component of the car will be fair game as well.

If you're driving stock height or only slightly lowered, I don't see how you can damage the mporium tray unless you run over a boulder lmao
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I have the mporium and like most aftermarket skid plates, it sits nearly flat. Nothing protruding out like the oem felt pieces. If you're driving low enough to the point where something you hit will damage the plate, any underpart component of the car will be fair game as well.

If you're driving stock height or only slightly lowered, I don't see how you can damage the mporium tray unless you run over a boulder lmao
Runoff gravel traps are pretty deep..lol
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Runoff gravel traps are pretty deep..lol
I was talking about street driving but like you mentioned, I believe the extra rigidity and clearance will allow the aftermarket pieces to be pretty durable.

If these scenarios are devastating enough to do significant structural damage to chassis mounted splitters/rigid skid plates, I don't think having oem pieces will fare any better, especially if your car sits low
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I was talking about street driving but like you mentioned, I believe the extra rigidity and clearance will allow the aftermarket pieces to be pretty durable.

If these scenarios are devastating enough to do significant structural damage to chassis mounted splitters/rigid skid plates, I don't think having oem pieces will fare any better, especially if your car sits low
Totally agree on that. I guess as long as I got that little piece that was held on by the bumper fasteners, I can return it to FCP without an issue.

Can't beat lightness. I definitely aren't as low as most folks are as I only hit the side pieces during driveways.
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Totally agree on that. I guess as long as I got that little piece that was held on by the bumper fasteners, I can return it to FCP without an issue.

Can't beat lightness. I definitely aren't as low as most folks are as I only hit the side pieces during driveways.
Yup, since my car sits significantly lower than stock I have no choice but to run flat skid plates. I have nothing left of my oem piece which is surprising to some considering I drive fairly cautiously.
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Yup, since my car sits significantly lower than stock I have no choice but to run flat skid plates. I have nothing left of my oem piece which is surprising to some considering I drive fairly cautiously.
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I'm only 10mm below ZCP height. This is primary cause I don't care for being that low and the compromises of driving that low are. Been there, done that.
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I needed the flat aftermarket because there's no chance an OEM one survives. I've been through two already.

No I don't need my eyes checked. No my car isn't too low (factory height up until 2 months ago, now it's at Bilstein B12 height - which is close to stock). I drive mine year round and up here in winter snow + ice gets measured in feet (well, cm but you get the point) and temps as cold as -40° where the OEM pieces get even more brittle than they already are.

Flat, metal undertrays serve the purpose for me. Aero is certainly better than a non-existent or destroyed tray, and I can't see mine weighing much more than stock at ~3lbs.
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I needed the flat aftermarket because there's no chance an OEM one survives. I've been through two already.

No I don't need my eyes checked. No my car isn't too low (factory height up until 2 months ago, now it's at Bilstein B12 height - which is close to stock). I drive mine year round and up here in winter snow + ice gets measured in feet (well, cm but you get the point) and temps as cold as -40 where the OEM pieces get even more brittle than they already are.

Flat, metal undertrays serve the purpose for me. Aero is certainly better than a non-existent or destroyed tray, and I can't see mine weighing much more than stock at ~3lbs.
Even with all this talk in the other comments I'm still with you my friend. The only comment that got me hesitant is the idea of "warping" the curved bumper by installing a flat plate. This might be way overstated, but in the same way I don't want to drill holes in bumper for an Mporium plate, I would prefer not warping my bumper either... lol
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