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      03-31-2018, 01:39 PM   #23
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What’s your reasoning or thinking behind this suggestion?

Threads like this take with a grain of salt. Lots of recommendations with no reasoning provided for the OP to ponder on. To me it’s just as important to understand ya’lls opinions than just taking them.
Well this is an opinion thread so everyone is giving their opinions lol. Having a newer car with a more miles is better in my eyes. Better tech, less wear on rubber parts assuming kept outside, no 08 flywheel problem, easier to resell when/if the time comes.
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+1 on ~30K

Also, E92 didn't get LCI till '11

08's have a different clutch design that is more expensive when it comes time to replacing, even going to the 09+ clutch/flywheel. So in the end its a wash, you can look at newer cars with more miles that are cheaper than this one.
are you suggesting a 2011, like this example, would be a better way to go?

https://www.carmax.com/car/15741846


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What is the asking price of the car? How did the guys do estimating it's value? And if the car is priced much over that you can use this thread as a bargaining tool :-) And if it's priced lower well, delete the whole thread and don't let him see it.
funny! asking 35k.
$35k?? run away as fast as you can. You can find a 2011 competition package car with similar miles for that price. A local member to me has a 2009 6MT Jerez with black interior updated CIC, 67,000 Miles for sale for $27k and it still has a warranty. Save the $8k and super charge it. Or buy it, save the $8k and take the wife and kids to dinner and a movie. I hear the shape of water was really good.
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      03-31-2018, 02:40 PM   #25
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[QUOTE=nyc_dude;22993088]"...IMHO Don't buy a 2008 //M3. The e9x //M3 cars were a mid-year replacement starting in about the spring of 2008. They were pre-LCI cars with the old iDrive/Nav. But it was the first introduction of the S-65 V8 which made them unreliable. BMW doesnt have a great reputation for designing and building rock solid V-8s. I think the //M3 S-65 V8s were hand built. So the first year saw many bad engines...Also avoid the DCT, since if it fails = $15,000..."


Good information, thank you.

Where are all of the 2008 M3 owners?!

Jump in here and defend the first year of the

mighty E9x M3!!
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I'm 08 e90 I'm not even gonna bother to defend but I can tell you it's cleaner then most 13's I seen I have 22k miles
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      03-31-2018, 11:14 PM   #27
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I initially bought into the "don't buy an 08 M3" argument, then a guy whose opinion on BMWs I respect said "the 08s are fine" so I bought one. Paid $26K last June for an IB (great color) coupe with DCT. Car had 77K miles, clean Carfax, and a decent history.

I worked a deal with the dealer to have the rod bearings done as part of the purchase. The bearings looked fine when he got them out, btw, but I needed the peace of mind. I then decided to pre-emptively install the gears in the TBA's with aftermarket, and discovered the TBAs were date stamped 2014, so they had obviously been replaced. Popped the aftermarket gears in them. The car, soon after I got it, developed an oil leak from the crank snout seal, so I had the guy who had replaced the bearings do that, as well as change out the DCT fluid and replace the leak-prone DCT pan and seal. All this was done in the first month or so of ownership, and all included things I had planned for, except for the crank snout seal oil leak. Thus, the total price, all in, was under $30 for me.

Fast forward, and I'm 10 months in, at just over 90K. I use it as both a daily driver, in deadly Seattle area stop and go, and as a trip car, blasting across the Great Northwest. Since the initial maintenance/repairs, the car has been flawless. I don't mind the iDrive interface particularly, and, since I don't really use most of the other gadgets that much (would be happy with a straight dash car), I don't see much that I care about vs the later models. I do understand, though, that the manual on the 08s was a problem child. My DCT has been fine--I installed the Euro tune.

So--my humble 08 has so far, been great. I love the car so much I drive it every day, in all kinds of horrible weather, and it has treated me well. As we head into track season, I have a set of StopTech brakes that will go on, as well as some sticky tires. I suspect it will be a blast on track as well.

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Hmm that's tricky. Sounds like a great option though if you want a weekend M3 and don't need some of the updates from later on in the generation. Do you know the colors and options? I would throw out $30k as possibly reasonable without knowing more. I personally base cost of these more rare cars on what is it worth to ME.
"I personally base cost of these more rare cars on what is it worth to ME."

I usually find myself here. Every car has it's own value to a current owner and future owner. After establishing a base (seems like the consensus here is $30k), the unique automobile's condition, mileage, history, color, features, etc. push the value north or south from there. I agree in any case $35k is too high. This specific M3 is worth more to me than $30...likely somewhere in the middle.

Here are a few photos...more to follow - this M3 looks NEW! (bonus photo: bro-in-law's DEMON!)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/NnrY1d4EqgDemToV2

Thanks, all, for your responses here!
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Just for comparison, a local 2008 E90 @ Carmax where i'm from is ~27k ( after tax and $300 carmax fee ). This is with 88k miles, no real indication of service history, and only ~35k worth of miles for Maxcare at an additional 32-3600.

With the all in of 30k for that piece of mind, yet still likely needing a clutch sometime soon, i'd wager your looking at a much better deal on your end, than what i'm seeing locally.
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      04-02-2018, 11:11 PM   #31
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Lol at buying a newer car with twice the mileage for the same price. you buy a car with 70k and sell it at 100 and you'll have a much less valuable car.... Very hard to sell. You buy a car with 30k and sell it at 60k and it'll sell all day long. It will also be the less used/worn car.

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Lol at buying a newer car with twice the mileage for the same price. you buy a car with 70k and sell it at 100 and you'll have a much less valuable car.... Very hard to sell. You buy a car with 30k and sell it at 60k and it'll sell all day long. It will also be the less used/worm car.
Agreed. 25k miles vs 60-80k miles is significant. These cars just feel different, and there is generally a noticeable difference in interior wear as well. I've owned plenty of higher mileage vehicles and there is a reason you pay more for low mileage. Many of these cars are not driven daily, and sometimes even 30-40k miles is 6-7 years worth of additional wear and tear.

Are there exceptions to that rule? Sure, cars regularly driven in San Francisco, NYC, Chicago or any other area with shit roads may feel worn out by 30K miles, while one driven in an area with really good roads may have minimal suspension wear by comparison at 60k miles.

That said, $35-$40K can also buy a relatively low mileage (~40K mile) LCI car nowadays so there is that to consider. An '08 with 25K miles in a desirable color combo should still bring $30K plus though, so i would say you're in the range. If you like the car and it's what you want, and you know the history, i wouldn't worry about spending a couple grand more to get a known quantity.
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Agreed. 25k miles vs 60-80k miles is significant. These cars just feel different, and there is generally a noticeable difference in interior wear as well. I've owned plenty of higher mileage vehicles and there is a reason you pay more for low mileage. Many of these cars are not driven daily, and sometimes even 30-40k miles is 6-7 years worth of additional wear and tear.
Absolutely - overall wear and tear is significantly different. At 30k, a well kept car will be virtually indiscernible from a brand new car.

A 70k car will be nothing of the sort. Are there very nice 70k cars? Heck yea, I have one (e46m) but it's NOTHING like my 30k car. Paint chips, wear and tear, interior wear, sun fading, and on and on and on. No comparison - you will never make the 70k car as nice as the 30k car without a full restoration which would be stupid.

So, for the same money, you can either buy a low mileage mint condition older model OR a higher mileage/more worn car with better tail lights.
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Mileage is king. Some of the posts here are laughable.

Look at this e36 sedan m3 low mile example what sold for, despite paint work and transmission swap non the less. A 100k Mile example is 10-12k at most and we are talking cars with half the horsepower of e9x.
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Mileage is king. Some of the posts here are laughable.

Look at this e36 sedan m3 low mile example what sold for, despite paint work and transmission swap non the less. A 100k Mile example is 10-12k at most and we are talking cars with half the horsepower of e9x.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-bmw-m3-64/?blm=4
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Wow I cannot imagine paying <5k more than I payed for my 13k mile '11 E90M in 2015...FOR AN E36!!! WTF
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Wow I cannot imagine paying <5k more than I payed for my 13k mile '11 E90M in 2015...FOR AN E36!!! WTF
Are you saying you paid less than 17k for '11 E90M3 with just 13k miles on it in 2015?
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Are you saying you paid less than 17k for '11 E90M3 with just 13k miles on it in 2015?
I was referring to the E36 M3 sold for $36,125 from the link. I payed 41k.
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we came to an agreement and the M3 will be on a truck tomorrow! i can't wait!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14ah...w?usp=drivesdk
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I bought an 08 with 85k. The rod bearings did show some wear. I did mine at MRF and he showed me bearings from cars with the new type bearings with way less miles that had significant wear.
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we came to an agreement and the M3 will be on a truck tomorrow! i can't wait!

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Congratulations! You'll love it.

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Congratulations! You'll love it.

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Thanks! I should have it today or tomorrow >>

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Congratulations! You'll love it.

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thanks! yes, it's an amazing machine. i couldn't be happier especially considering the sight-unseen purchase. it may as well be new. i was a bit hesitant because it has 20" 2-piece forged wheels. after driving it a bit (and having an E92 335i M-sport with 19" wheels), i cannot feel the difference compared to 19's. i really love the raw-brushed look of the wheel face and the polished lips...the wheels have a great concave look too. BONUS - this thing has the OEM exhaust mod (cut out perforated pipe - weld in a new pipe version) - it SCREAMS.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ocX1ejGEATL81EXI2

i may have paid a premium for the mileage, service history, and overall fantastic condition - i can live with it. and a bonus is the $7,000 wheel & tire package.

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thanks! yes, it's an amazing machine. i couldn't be happier especially considering the sight-unseen purchase. it may as well be new. i was a bit hesitant because it has 20" 2-piece forged wheels. after driving it a bit (and having an E92 335i M-sport with 19" wheels), i cannot feel the difference compared to 19's. i really love the raw-brushed look of the wheel face and the polished lips...the wheels have a great concave look too. BONUS - this thing has the OEM exhaust mod (cut out perforated pipe - weld in a new pipe version) - it SCREAMS.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ocX1ejGEATL81EXI2

i may have paid a premium for the mileage, service history, and overall fantastic condition - i can live with it. and a bonus is the $7,000 wheel & tire package.

thanks, all.

I inquired about this exact car. But being that it was in FL and im in NJ, i got cold feet and wouldnt buy I car I couldnt see first. Looks like a beauty though and glad it all worked out.
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