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      12-18-2018, 12:29 PM   #1
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Bilstein Clubsport spring length?

Looking to re-spring my set of clubsport.

What are the spring lengths I should be looking at?

Thanks!
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      12-19-2018, 04:56 AM   #2
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Looking to re-spring my set of clubsport.

What are the spring lengths I should be looking at?

Thanks!
Dont bilstein use unique spring dia's? (by memory you'd have to re-use bilstein type/branded springs)
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      12-20-2018, 10:13 AM   #3
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Dont bilstein use unique spring dia's? (by memory you'd have to re-use bilstein type/branded springs)

From what I understand its 60mm internal diameter. Just short of the spring length right now.

Not in the mood to dismantle my front shock to measure it at this point of time
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From what I understand its 60mm internal diameter. Just short of the spring length right now.

Not in the mood to dismantle my front shock to measure it at this point of time
Is it not stamped anywhere on the spring?
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      12-22-2018, 08:30 AM   #5
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Is it not stamped anywhere on the spring?
Settled!

In case anyone ever have the same qns.....

Go with 7inches spring if you reducing spring rate

Unless you're planning to go harder rates then go for 6"
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      12-23-2018, 07:25 PM   #6
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What did you end up going to on the front?
From memory they ship with 570 fronts and 800 rears?
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      12-26-2018, 08:43 PM   #7
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Settled!

In case anyone ever have the same qns.....

Go with 7inches spring if you reducing spring rate

Unless you're planning to go harder rates then go for 6"

I'm curious why you are recommending a different spring length depending on the rate he chooses? Rate and length are independent of each other. You should determine the the travel range of the spring and ensure it won't bottom out prior to the shocks hitting the bump stops - no matter what rate you choose. Therefore there is not a reason to use a longer 7" spring for a lower spring rate - as long as a 6" has sufficient travel. And if it won't work for a lower rate, then it typically won't work for a higher rate. The travel range may differ by a few mm's with different rates as the wire diameter may be thinner or thicker depending on rate - however if you are calling it that close you should go with a longer spring.
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      01-03-2019, 09:44 AM   #8
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I'm curious why you are recommending a different spring length depending on the rate he chooses? Rate and length are independent of each other. You should determine the the travel range of the spring and ensure it won't bottom out prior to the shocks hitting the bump stops - no matter what rate you choose. Therefore there is not a reason to use a longer 7" spring for a lower spring rate - as long as a 6" has sufficient travel. And if it won't work for a lower rate, then it typically won't work for a higher rate. The travel range may differ by a few mm's with different rates as the wire diameter may be thinner or thicker depending on rate - however if you are calling it that close you should go with a longer spring.

Just quoting what was given to me by SWIFT springs. Anyway the springs arrived and the length is minimal in difference. Less than 0.5 of an inch. In fact the difference is so minute its not going to make a difference.
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What did you end up going to on the front?
From memory they ship with 570 fronts and 800 rears?

I went with 8kg and 10kg front and rear respectively.

Was recommended by the makers not to go beyond 20% reduction in rates so it is still within range. Car is a lot more streetable now. I know no one gets a set of clubsport and expect to use it full time on the streets but due to some personal issues the car wont be seeing any track time for the near future so must as well make the best of it.
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