2016 Track(able) Tire Options

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by lutfy

Nice! I'd flip them side to side (if its not raining). Here is the formula I use:

1) run them as intended for the entire weekend.
2) flip (not on wheel but side to side) one weekend (again no rain assuming).
3) flip on wheel to even out wear.
4) repeat as no 2.

By that time, tires would be toast or cycled out

Lutfy

That makes perfect sense, I'm going to put this into practice, thanks!

[admranger]

Those seem to wear pretty fast! Only 8 heat cycles? Yikes!

[MFKN3]

I previously used Nitto NT01 and just switched to Hankook Z221 (TD). Day and night difference, beat previous track PB's by a couple seconds.

[admranger]

Originally Posted by MFKN3

I previously used Nitto NT01 and just switched to Hankook Z221 (TD). Day and night difference, beat previous track PB's by a couple seconds.

How's the life on the Z221's? I can drop 2 secs per lap (minimum) by slapping some Hoosiers on, but they heat cycle out very quickly. However, since I'm not trying to achieve HPDE world champion status, I don't run Hoosiers.

[MFKN3]

Originally Posted by admranger

How's the life on the Z221's? I can drop 2 secs per lap (minimum) by slapping some Hoosiers on, but they heat cycle out very quickly. However, since I'm not trying to achieve HPDE world champion status, I don't run Hoosiers.

I'm talking semi's. I'm only aware of a hoosier slick here which aren't allowed. I went with newer z221 compound in medium and they're holding up surprisingly well. I scrubbed them in, but they probably won't live as long as the nittos. This is on a track under 60 seconds and tyre prices would be different here.

[dparm]

How do the AD08Rs do on track? Tire Rack rates them pretty well, and their wet performance seems acceptable. Also available as 255/35R19 and 275/35R19 for fitment on OEM ZCP wheels.

My PSS will not last much longer and I'm eyeing the AD08R as my next tire. I'm not quite at the point where I am swapping wheels and tires so I'd like something streetable.

[1MOREMOD]

Ad08s are a nice step up from the pss but won't be nearly as good in the wet. I used them on street until moved to nt01s

[Kong Sheng Han]

Anyone here use Federal 595 RSRs? They seem to have a good rep and are really cheap. Missed out on the Hankook RS3 sale, so I'm going to hold off on those. Also considered PSS, but I've read that they chunk.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Kong Sheng Han

Anyone here use Federal 595 RSRs? They seem to have a good rep and are really cheap. Missed out on the Hankook RS3 sale, so I'm going to hold off on those. Also considered PSS, but I've read that they chunk.

I would not put the PSS in the same category as the RSR or RS3.

[Move Over]

Originally Posted by dparm

I would not put the PSS in the same category as the RSR or RS3.

Definitely not, my RS3's are 5+ seconds faster on a short track here than my PSS. Grip is much better too.

[nholmes]

Originally Posted by Kong Sheng Han

Anyone here use Federal 595 RSRs? They seem to have a good rep and are really cheap. Missed out on the Hankook RS3 sale, so I'm going to hold off on those. Also considered PSS, but I've read that they chunk.

I've got a friend that swears by the Federal RSRs. I got to ride in his E36M with those tires. I was very surprised at the grip for the price. I'm curious to see how they hold up in 100*F weather though.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by nholmes

I've got a friend that swears by the Federal RSRs. I got to ride in his E36M with those tires. I was very surprised at the grip for the price. I'm curious to see how they hold up in 100*F weather though.

Isn't the RSR popular with the drift crowd? It's kinda hard to get here in the US.

[Move Over]

Originally Posted by nholmes

I've got a friend that swears by the Federal RSRs. I got to ride in his E36M with those tires. I was very surprised at the grip for the price. I'm curious to see how they hold up in 100*F weather though.

What do they run in a 275/35/18? I'm due for another set of track tires come fall.

[nholmes]

Originally Posted by Move Over

What do they run in a 275/35/18? I'm due for another set of track tires come fall.

Closest is 265/35/18

http://www.federaltire.com/spec/spec...&model=595RS-R

[z3papa]

You will roast the Federals on the track. They will melt like butter.

[admranger]

dparm: try Bridgestone RE-11's. Good street tire (stiffer than PSS, but tolerable w/stock suspension). Good track tire with good manners and great grip for a street tire.

[nholmes]

Originally Posted by z3papa

You will roast the Federals on the track. They will melt like butter.

Tell me more about your first hand experience.

I'm looking at these as a cheap alternative.

[White 13]

Originally Posted by dparm

How do the AD08Rs do on track? Tire Rack rates them pretty well, and their wet performance seems acceptable. Also available as 255/35R19 and 275/35R19 for fitment on OEM ZCP wheels.

My PSS will not last much longer and I'm eyeing the AD08R as my next tire. I'm not quite at the point where I am swapping wheels and tires so I'd like something streetable.

I think the AD08R is comparable to the Bridgestone RE71R. I have had both on my car with ZCP wheels. Unfortunately it wasn't any sort of back to back comparison. I had a set of the RE 11 in between. RE 11 is a OK street tire and probably better on the track than the PSS's but it is not in the same category as the AD08R or the RE71R.

I would like to compare the AD08R with the RE71R but the 180 treadwear takes it out of Street class for autoX since a couple of years ago. Neither is likely to last as long as a street tire for street use but much better and probably longer lasting for track or autoX in my opinion. My PSS's chunked badly and Tire Rack says not to use them for autoX or track.

[chamba002]

Originally Posted by dparm

Isn't the RSR popular with the drift crowd? It's kinda hard to get here in the US.

Most indy tire shops can order it or you can go online: https://www.onlinetires.com/search/v...ds/page_2.html

I currently run NT05 275/35/18 squared set up. Right now Federal doesn't sell 275/35/18 but I heard the Federal 595RSR are a bit wider then the tire specification. Planning to try 265/35/18 once my Nittos wear out.

[redpriest]

These Federal RSRs are cheap! Half the price of NT01s practically and people in other cars seem to love them.

[///Mobbin]

Could do staggered with these (slight reverse rake): 265/35R18 F, 285/30R18 R

Federal 595 RS-R Spec Sheet

Skeptical but curious for someone to try them.

[Kong Sheng Han]

Originally Posted by dparm

I would not put the PSS in the same category as the RSR or RS3.

I'm not comparing the two. I just heard they're good tires for people who are still kinda new to tracking and don't need R-comps.

Originally Posted by Move Over

What do they run in a 275/35/18? I'm due for another set of track tires come fall.

They don't sell in 275, but their tires run wide.

Originally Posted by chamba002

Most indy tire shops can order it or you can go online: https://www.onlinetires.com/search/v...ds/page_2.html

I currently run NT05 275/35/18 squared set up. Right now Federal doesn't sell 275/35/18 but I heard the Federal 595RSR are a bit wider then the tire specification. Planning to try 265/35/18 once my Nittos wear out.

Originally Posted by ///Mobbin

Could do staggered with these (slight reverse rake): 265/35R18 F, 285/30R18 R

Federal 595 RS-R Spec Sheet

Skeptical but curious for someone to try them.

No one has them in 265 or 255..all back ordered with no ETA. Need new tires for an event in mid-May.

Edit: I wonder if I would face immediate death by using NT-01s. Found a used set that could hold me off while I wait for RSRs to come back.