Help with PAC LOC Remote Wire to Sub Amp - Wont Turn On

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

You referring to this thread?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647570

Correct.

flip · 03-23-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

The ONLY converter that can handle the 40v from the EPS system is the LC2i.

Oh dang. So not just for the remote wire function but for the LOC function also? If this is the case I guess I'd end up burning my PAC LOC up after a while if I simply used a different remote wire?

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

Oh dang. So not just for the remote wire function but for the LOC function also? If this is the case I guess I'd end up burning my PAC LOC up after a while if I simply used a different remote wire?

It wouldn't last 5 mins.

flip · 03-23-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

It wouldn't last 5 mins.

Good to know! I guess I'll sell this PAC LOC before I blow it then

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Thanks a TON for all of your help and everyone else that has chimed in. Great forum! I'm sure I'll have plenty of other questions...

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

Good to know! I guess I'll sell this PAC LOC before I blow it then

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Thanks a TON for all of your help and everyone else that has chimed in. Great forum! I'm sure I'll have plenty of other questions...

No problem. Glad I could help.

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

my LC2i doesn't work with it either

Myself and another member have had to have ours replaced once so far. I think it's a terrible unit but it's supposedly the only option unless we downgrade to Hifi and run additional amps.

kmarei · 03-23-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Myself and another member have had to have ours replaced once so far. I think it's a terrible unit but it's supposedly the only option unless we downgrade to Hifi and run additional amps.

i deleted my post because initially i thought you meant the LC2i can detect remote turn on with the GTO (Great Turn On) feature
which it doesn't
but mine is working well
except right now i haven't wired any remote and have it connected to direct power
which works ok but will have to change that if i ever park my car for longer than 2 days without using it

i already tapped the small thin black wire that VP recommened
and i got a PAC TR-4 to hook up to it
but haven't had the time to install it yet

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

i deleted my post because initially i thought you meant the LC2i can detect remote turn on with the GTO (Great Turn On) feature
which it doesn't
but mine is working well
except right now i haven't wired any remote and have it connected to direct power
which works ok but will have to change that if i ever park my car for longer than 2 days without using it

i already tapped the small thin black wire that VP recommened
and i got a PAC TR-4 to hook up to it
but haven't had the time to install it yet

Why do you need the PAC TR-4?

kmarei · 03-23-2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Why do you need the PAC TR-4?

using it as a relay, i like it cuz it looks nice than a relay and already has the wires sticking out of it.
don't want to put the LC2i and the XD600/1 remote wires on that skinny looking black wire

afraid i put to much strain on it
i believe that wire is meant for the antenna booster
so not designed for this much load
i measured the load from the remote wire for LC2i and XD and its about .5 amps
PAC TR-4 can handle up to 2 amps

flip · 03-23-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Myself and another member have had to have ours replaced once so far. I think it's a terrible unit but it's supposedly the only option unless we downgrade to Hifi and run additional amps.

Do you know what gives out on it? Are there not any better units available?

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

using it as a relay, i like it cuz it looks nice than a relay and already has the wires sticking out of it.
don't want to put the LC2i and the XD600/1 remote wires on that skinny looking black wire

afraid i put to much strain on it
i believe that wire is meant for the antenna booster
so not designed for this much load
i measured the load from the remote wire for LC2i and XD and its about .5 amps
PAC TR-4 can handle up to 2 amps

Can't wait to see your installation then as I would consider adding it if it will make a difference.

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

Do you know what gives out on it? Are there not any better units available?

Correct unless you downgrade to Hifi which requires running new amps for all the speakers.

BIGW0RM · 03-23-2012, 04:28 PM

Now Im nervous about using the thin remote wire.

flip · 03-23-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Correct unless you downgrade to Hifi which requires running new amps for all the speakers.

Ugh. Ok. Good to know.

Maybe a better option would be to either upgrade to a better aftermarket amp with an optical input, or is there a such thing as an optical converter?

flip · 03-23-2012, 06:32 PM

Oh also, when you had to have the LC2i replaced, was it done under warranty? Is it rated for the power that our stock amp is putting out? Faulty? or just pushed too hard?

THE TECH · 03-23-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flip

Oh also, when you had to have the LC2i replaced, was it done under warranty? Is it rated for the power that our stock amp is putting out? Faulty? or just pushed too hard?

Warranty, yes. I just don't think it's a quality unit. But it prob has to do with the fact that it has to deal with 40v.

kmarei · 03-23-2012, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Now Im nervous about using the thin remote wire.

I figured the TR-4 costs $10 from best buy
Why risk it?
This way I am not worried about adding more amps in the future

flip · 03-24-2012, 11:05 AM

Why would the remote from the LC2i not work on our cars?

Technic · 03-24-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

Why would the remote from the LC2i not work on our cars?

The answer was posted in the same link that you posted: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=64

flip · 03-24-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

The answer was posted in the same link that you posted: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=64

Ah, I missed that. Thanks!

flip · 03-25-2012, 08:44 AM

So is it proven that this thing will work for us?

http://www.amazon.com/PAC-TR-4-Volta...=19C1M7MAG6JRV

or are we forced to use the stock head units turnon?

Technic · 03-25-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by flip

So is it proven that this thing will work for us?

http://www.amazon.com/PAC-TR-4-Volta...=19C1M7MAG6JRV

or are we forced to use the stock head units turnon?

VP Electricity tried that one... it did not work.

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