2013 GTR Pulling 2.8 G's!! This beast VS. what??

[chungdae]

Originally Posted by alms211

....all of a sudden "Oh yeah, I know" and you were "just trolling". Yeah, sure you were Just like on your post (#69) where you emphatically said the delta was $100K.

Just admit you had no fucking idea what you were talking about (as usual) and try to save some level of respect for Christsake. You are a disgrace.

Lol so angry

[WRXXX]

Originally Posted by alms211

Wanna bet? There are many many that won't pay $150K for a brand new 911TT when you can get CPO for $115K, under 15k miles. The warranty is just as long as that of a new GTR and with a much more mod friendly environment. Even if I had the $$$ for a $150K brand new 997TT, I'd opt for a barely used 1 or 2 year old one and save $30-40K.

Do u hv A.D.D? Wanna bet there are many that won't pay $90K for brand new GT-R when u can get a CPO for $60K? I can play this all nite long. And u are an idiot to always compare new vs used, discounts and such. Might as well say "if I put down $100K myself and steal my mom's $50K that she has under her mattress...then really, I am only paying $10K more for a 911T instead of a shitty GT-R"

....lol jokes. Stop finding stupid excuses to bring the price of the 911T closer to a GT-R. Look, we all know the 911T is a badass car. I am sure if money was no object and there could only be one or the other, most folks would choose the 911. However if u put value into the equation, does the $60k difference seem justifiable when the GT-R can run neck to neck with a 911T? And please don't give me the "...but the GT-R looks like ass" reply. Boring.

[devo]

Originally Posted by graider

i disagree with ALMS here.

the argument of buying a used turbo vs a brand new gtr doesn't make sense. one could say they would buy a used gtr for 60-70k too. i rather buy a brand new car than a used one everytime if i can afford it. a used car has less/zero warranty, previous owner might abused it, and at the end of the day, it has already been used by someone. pay 100+k for a car and you still feel it was used by someone else already is not a good feeling IMO.


a fully load GTR premium which included all the options such as NAV, premium audio, etc is just 90k. so there is 51k different in price, that is not a small different IMO consider the turbo doesn't handle as well as the gtr and is actually slower than the GTR around the track. only the turbo S can match it. But the turbo S is pushing 170k easily.

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i configured a brand new turbo with equivalent option to a gtr and it came up to 151k. notice i didn't even go crazy with all the nonsense options yet. e.g. i didn't upgrade the seats, there is no rear parking camera, etc.

Description No. Info Price
911 Turbo


$137,500

Exterior Color


Carrara White
B4
$0

Interior Color


Black Full Leather Interior
AT
$0

Exterior


ParkAssist System (Rear)
635
$530

Performance


Sport Chrono Package Turbo Including Dynamic Engine Mounts
640
$4,090

Limited Slip Rear Differential
220
$1,320

7-Speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
250
$4,550

Wheels


19" 911 Turbo II Wheel
421
$0

Interior


Heated Seats (Front)
342
$525

12-Way Power Seats
P15
$0

Audio and Communications


Electronic logbook
641
$650

Voice Control
671
$595

Telephone Module
666
$265

6-Disc CD/DVD Changer
693
$650

Destination Charge:


Destination Charge:

$950

Total Price*


$151,625

there are not many reasons to get the telephone module, (BT supersedes that and is standard), or electronic log book; voice control not so much either. with that said why ruin the rear bumper with those butt ugly park sensors? does a GTR even come with those? Full Leather is standard on the turbo and is infinitely better than what comes in the GTR. baseball style stitching on leather dash, doors, rear compartment, etc. build quality, paint, etc. far better. worth $47/$48k probably not. you mentioned not upgrading the seats, you can and they are nice, but not necessary.

the delta is more like $47k (without adding unwanted or excessive options) rather than $51k, as a base GTR is $91k. hey, $47/$51k is a lot either way.

again, the S is typically $165K or less.

[991GT3]

Upfront costs are only part of the equation about value.
Resale is another aspect. I know my GTRs have held their value relatively well but I'm not too sure about 911s(I assume they hold pretty well too).
This aspect is why I have been shying away from new Mercs and Bimmers.

[devo]

Originally Posted by 997GT3

Upfront costs are only part of the equation about value.
Resale is another aspect. I know my GTRs have held their value relatively well but I'm not too sure about 911s(I assume they hold pretty well too).
This aspect is why I have been shying away from new Mercs and Bimmers.

i hear you. mercs seem to fall off the earth. bmws don't do a bunch better, imo.

911 turbos tank pretty hard. other 911s do fairly well. gt3s and RSs hold up the best of the group. but they are still your typical depreciating asset. yes, gtrs have good residuals. i am always tempted by them. they just get better and better.

i have only driven a gtr briefly at slower speeds in the dealer parking lot and roads around the dealership. with that said, i found the rougher ride, noises and such, welcome. to the contrary i found my 2007 turbo to be too boring, with too high a ride height and far too quiet. yes, very fast with immense torque and grip, but not exciting enough. hence the current gt3.

[AlteredBe4st]

Originally Posted by WRXXX

Do u hv A.D.D? Wanna bet there are many that won't pay $90K for brand new GT-R when u can get a CPO for $60K? I can play this all nite long. And u are an idiot to always compare new vs used, discounts and such. Might as well say "if I put down $100K myself and steal my mom's $50K that she has under her mattress...then really, I am only paying $10K more for a 911T instead of a shitty GT-R"

....lol jokes. Stop finding stupid excuses to bring the price of the 911T closer to a GT-R. Look, we all know the 911T is a badass car. I am sure if money was no object and there could only be one or the other, most folks would choose the 911. However if u put value into the equation, does the $60k difference seem justifiable when the GT-R can run neck to neck with a 911T? And please don't give me the "...but the GT-R looks like ass" reply. Boring.

+1 to the 10000000 power, could not have said it any better.

[LarThaL]

Originally Posted by Levi

There are to many M3 driver going over to the GT-R. Look how any GT-R threads there are. I hope the new M3/M4 F8X with FI is going to be as beasty as the GT-R.

It will not be. The M3 is a totally different type of car with a very different purpose.

[clar]

Originally Posted by VVG

It will not be. The M3 is a totally different type of car with a very different purpose.

Besides, the M3 is only allowed to be faster on a track/Ring than the M5/6, but not in the straights so it will never match a GTR.

[haze gray]

I'm definitely buying my next car based upon the next post about what a great car it is. I like to make my decisions on sporadic posts on forums. NOT>>>

[devo]

Originally Posted by haze gray

I'm definitely buying my next car based upon the next post about what a great car it is. I like to make my decisions on sporadic posts on forums. NOT>>>

good for you! what does that have to do with anything?

[CSanto]

I love when people claim they can buy 5 GTRs.

If you had 500k to spend on a car or cars. You'd have something more than an M3 as your designated "sports car"

The M3 is a great car, but its not pure bred sports car. It's a mutt.

[graider]

Originally Posted by devo

there are not many reasons to get the telephone module, (BT supersedes that and is standard), or electronic log book; voice control not so much either. with that said why ruin the rear bumper with those butt ugly park sensors? does a GTR even come with those? Full Leather is standard on the turbo and is infinitely better than what comes in the GTR. baseball style stitching on leather dash, doors, rear compartment, etc. build quality, paint, etc. far better. worth $47/$48k probably not. you mentioned not upgrading the seats, you can and they are nice, but not necessary.

the delta is more like $47k (without adding unwanted or excessive options) rather than $51k, as a base GTR is $91k. hey, $47/$51k is a lot either way.

again, the S is typically $165K or less.

GTR comes with rear view camera, it screen has NAV, log book, g meter, everything builtin that a track junkie would need. what i was trying to do was match the option of the turbo with the gtr to have a real fair price comparison. in any case, those options on the porsche don't cost much anyway, so at the end of the day, the porsche is still around 47k more out the door like you mentioned and that is not much diff than my 51k estimated earlier

[Templar]

What a shocker, another thread posted about something cool the GTR is doing and it derails into a flame war.

Cool vids either way.

[graider]

Originally Posted by HREM3

I love when people claim they can buy 5 GTRs.

If you had 500k to spend on a car or cars. You'd have something more than an M3 as your designated "sports car"

The M3 is a great car, but its not pure bred sports car. It's a mutt.

agree, i wouldn't buy 5 GTR. rather used that money toward a 599 gto or something in that class.

[mattixxg]

Originally Posted by chungdae

Sigh you didn't read the entire post. Out the door. Tax, tag, title, delivery fee, etc. I'm actually a Porsche fanboi.

Alms211 is nothing more than a GTR hater. Pure and simple.

Originally Posted by lenzm3edan

Did someone forget to take their meds. you sir (Alms211) are angry, calm down. Everyone here has the right to post and have an opinion. GTR or Porsche both great vehicles but yes there is a major price difference for equal performance.

This.

Originally Posted by alms211

Just admit that you failed miserably on the $190K price you just threw out there

What does a GT-R have that a base 997TT doesn't. .....well, other than the video game buttons/screens

You are a pure hater...lol dumbass...

Originally Posted by chungdae

Lol so angry

Youre not the only one to notice that. Him and Nines are two of the biggest GTR haters on the forum. It burns them up alive inside seeing these posts.

Originally Posted by WRXXX

Do u hv A.D.D? Wanna bet there are many that won't pay $90K for brand new GT-R when u can get a CPO for $60K? I can play this all nite long. And u are an idiot to always compare new vs used, discounts and such. Might as well say "if I put down $100K myself and steal my mom's $50K that she has under her mattress...then really, I am only paying $10K more for a 911T instead of a shitty GT-R"

....lol jokes. Stop finding stupid excuses to bring the price of the 911T closer to a GT-R. Look, we all know the 911T is a badass car. I am sure if money was no object and there could only be one or the other, most folks would choose the 911. However if u put value into the equation, does the $60k difference seem justifiable when the GT-R can run neck to neck with a 911T? And please don't give me the "...but the GT-R looks like ass" reply. Boring.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by HREM3

I love when people claim they can buy 5 GTRs.

If you had 500k to spend on a car or cars. You'd have something more than an M3 as your designated "sports car"

The M3 is a great car, but its not pure bred sports car. It's a mutt.

One of the smartest posts in the thread.
I totally agree....the last thing youd be thinking of buying would be an M3, let alone a GTR.

The guy is a joke

[Nine]

Originally Posted by mattixxg

Youre not the only one to notice that. Him and Nines are two of the biggest GTR haters on the forum. It burns them up alive inside seeing these posts.

Whhhaaaat??? No way, I only get involved when people say that the M3 is dog shit compared to a GT-R. OR when arrogant GT-R owners forget that there are faster cars in the same price range or faster cars all together

The GT-R is a great car, supercar, superhyper car or whatever you want to call it, you don't need to prove it to me.

[shay2nak]

NO THANKS. It's ugly, it's heavy (more than twice the weight of my exige), it's a playstation on wheels. I'm surprised it doesn't drive itself...it already does everything else for the driver anyway.

2.8g is just in one corner on the track. And that's probably just instantenous g force. ALL cars would register higher g-force than what is quoted on the skidpad. BIG DEAL.

Why so many threads about GTR on M3 forum??

[mattixxg]

Originally Posted by Nine

Whhhaaaat??? No way, I only get involved when people say that the M3 is dog shit compared to a GT-R. OR when arrogant GT-R owners forget that there are faster cars in the same price range or faster cars all together

The GT-R is a great car, supercar, superhyper car or whatever you want to call it, you don't need to prove it to me.

The problem is, the M3 isnt one of them...and everyone gets butthurt.
Yeah a veyron, koniggegg (spelling?) is faster than a GTR. Its not the fastest thing out there, but its up there.

Originally Posted by shay2nak

NO THANKS. It's ugly, it's heavy (more than twice the weight of my exige), it's a playstation on wheels. I'm surprised it doesn't drive itself...it already does everything else for the driver anyway.

2.8g is just in one corner on the track. And that's probably just instantenous g force. ALL cars would register higher g-force than what is quoted on the skidpad. BIG DEAL.

Why so many threads about GTR on M3 forum??

Apparently M3 owners like them...and have BOTH.
Do you ever read the titles for threads?

Sure you dont like the car, but performance junkies do...you like the badge of the M3.

The performance and price point..ill say this again..the PERFORMANCE and price points are the "big deal"..unless youve been living under a rock and dont know what the car can do, of course.

And youre upset that the gtr has "technology"? lol.

If u want a car that has NO drivers aids, why arent you driving a z06 vette or dodge viper..youll get EXACTLY what youre looking for....only..without the badge.

[Nine]

Originally Posted by mattixxg

The problem is, the M3 isnt one of them...and everyone gets butthurt.
Yeah a veyron, koniggegg (spelling?) is faster than a GTR. Its not the fastest thing out there, but its up there.

I don't though, nobody thinks that the m3 is the fastest car in the world. Many people on this form decided against the GT-R to get an M3, for the M3's merits, these merits seem to get lost in translation when the keyboard wars start.

The GT-R is an outstanding performance car, what more do you want me to say? The M3 is slower.

You're the man now dawg!

The GT-R is better than an M3?
Damn it, who typed the question mark on the teleprompter!?

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by HREM3

I love when people claim they can buy 5 GTRs.

If you had 500k to spend on a car or cars. You'd have something more than an M3 as your designated "sports car"

The M3 is a great car, but its not pure bred sports car. It's a mutt.

I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. Did you get the fact that I love you?

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by mattixxg

Alms211 is nothing more than a GTR hater. Pure and simple.



This.



You are a pure hater...lol dumbass...



Youre not the only one to notice that. Him and Nines are two of the biggest GTR haters on the forum. It burns them up alive inside seeing these posts.



Exactly.




One of the smartest posts in the thread.
I totally agree....the last thing youd be thinking of buying would be an M3, let alone a GTR.

The guy is a joke

I love you too, I love you too, I Love you too, I love you too, I love you too, I love you too. Did you get the fact that I love you too? Geez, what took you guys so long to get here? I needed back-up ages ago.

[CSanto]

^^ It's alright bro, backup is here haha