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01-22-2009, 03:36 AM | #69 | |
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I don't think it's fair to compare a Ferrari to an M3, on average it near a third of the price yet it delivers about 85% of the ability which is not bad at all. It will be the least powerful when the RS5 arrives but even then the M3 will hold up well if the M5 is anything to go by. But unlike it's bigger family member the M3 is at the top on every other thing it does compared to it's rivals, the only unknown is the RS5 but I doubt it will be that much better, probably a similar improvement to the likes of the S4 vs 335i. I agree that the M3 has a disadvantage at stop lights, it's only really gets going near the end of most street races, but then the kind of DICKS which street race don't think of the speed limits so it could stand a pretty good chance after all. Total BS about the best M3 being the E46, the difference this time round is the competition has got a lot better and it's this that makes the new M3 look like it's stood still. Fact is that it's miles better than the previous version in every way possible. |
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I've never driven an E30 version, but judging by my experience with the E36, 46 and 92, that old car was probably the best one for back-road banditry. Bruce |
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Great thread, both interesting and entertaining!
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He currently has the E46 and in comparing my E92 to it I personal find my car both to have much better ride, refinement and response from the engine. It's steering doesn't have quite the feel but it's easier to place the car on the road so BMW has done something right. I know I have discussed this before but to make a judgement on an E9? without sampling it with stock 18" is wrong, the car behaves much better on back road and the steering just feels better. In my opinion it's the driver's option. |
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interesting thread.
so the hub dyno is supposed to have less drivetrain loss measurement than the wheel dyno? I'd be interested in some hard facts or measurements showing this, if anyone has anything My understanding is that mustang dyno's do have some unaccounted losses, but that dynojets are pretty accurate as the measurement already takes into account frictional losses on the dyno wheel, etc. I just did my dyno yesterday and the usual ~15-17% loss is fairly accurate from what I saw. Would be interested to see what the numbers would look like on a hub dyno
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I just did my dyno last night... I got 382.8 @ rear wheels Heres the link to my thread with vids/dynos http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202824 BY THE WAY: I used 94 Octane (available @ Sunoco)
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