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04-24-2014, 11:53 PM | #1 |
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Lease is due in 6 months and I want to buy my car from BMW.
My lease is due in October and I have started to think about the lease end process.
I plan on buying the car back from BMW and have a few questions: 1) Currently my car has the all the mods listed in my signature, anyone buy their car back with mods still installed? What that an issue? 2) Repurchase at a lower price than their residual? I know this was done in the past but don’t know how the market is now for M3’s as new models are being released. 3) Did you shop around, if so, how competitive were the other dealers? 4) Did you have the car CPO or purchase other third party extended warranty? If you didn’t CPO, whom did you buy extended warranty from? 5) Anyone purchase the Excess Wear & Tear Protection from BMW and used it to repair damages then buying it back? I purchased this but was told by local dealer (not the one who sold me the car) that this is not possible if I decide to purchase the car versus returning it back to them. I love my car and plan on keeping it for as long as I can. (My last BMW I kept 12 year and drove it 175k miles). Thank you in advance. Moderators, please move if I have posted this in the incorrect section.
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i have bought a car after its lease. it was heavily modded with a built motor. they gave me the price for buy out and i bought it out. no one needed to look at the car it self. although maybe its different for bmw
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04-25-2014, 12:05 AM | #3 |
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how long ago was it and was it with BMW or different company?
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04-25-2014, 12:13 AM | #4 |
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If you're ever in SoCal within the last 3 months of your lease, call Will Shaw at Shelly BMW in LA. (818)441-8813. He will sell the car for $1,000 over AUCTION price, which is generally WAY lower than the residual. There will be a couple hundred for an "inspection" that's just to make sure it's safe to drive. They don't care about mods as long as it's safe to drive since the dealer technically buys it from BMWFS at auction price and then sells it to you.
BMWFS won't let the car go for cheap until it's within the last 3 months of the end of the lease .
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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04-25-2014, 01:15 AM | #6 |
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It's a closed end lease. You're guaranteed an option to buy out the lease at the end for the residual price that was disclosed to you in the beginning. There's no reason to shop around other dealers. Just contact BMW Financial and tell them you want to buy out your vehicle and pay them directly, or go to your local FCU to get financing.
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04-25-2014, 08:56 AM | #7 | |
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OP, if you talk to Will, tell him you want the same deal he gave Austin with the M3.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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04-25-2014, 09:57 AM | #8 |
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I bought mine out through Nick Alexander about 2 months prior to the lease end - this was December 2013. They knocked about $1,500 off the residual. They never looked at the car, just asked for the mileage. They didn't care about the mods.
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04-25-2014, 08:34 PM | #9 |
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Did you get CPO done?
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04-25-2014, 11:38 PM | #10 |
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CPO pretty much has to be stock car with good tires and brakes. It adds a few thousand to the price of buying the car back.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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04-25-2014, 11:45 PM | #11 |
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That's what I'm afraid of.
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04-26-2014, 12:13 AM | #13 |
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Thank you.
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04-26-2014, 12:52 AM | #15 | |
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Now that's a complete rip off. All auto leases nowadays are closed end meaning you residual is guaranteed. If "Will" from Shelly BMW in LA is charging you $600 over, you're getting ripped. |
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04-28-2014, 02:02 AM | #16 | |
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I'm hoping things haven't changes since I have 5 months on my lease and was planning on buying it from him. If you have more than 3 mo on your lease, he can't get you a deal because BMWFS will not let the car go for Auction price. The auction price is an estimate of what the dealer gets the car for at those dealer only auctions. They make a killing on used cars. Most people know what the invoice price is for a NEW car and want to pay maybe $1,000-2,000 over invoice depending on the car. But on a used car, the dealer can get the car for many thousand below the residual. My wife's 335 had a residual of $28,500 and Will was able to get the car for around $23,500 and sold it to me for $1,300 over the auction price ($300) was for an "inspection" by the service department that took many hours or sitting around a waiting; that was the only part of the transaction I was not happy with and will make sure I'm not sitting around that long next time. Again, it has to happen within the last 3 months of the lease. .
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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04-28-2014, 03:28 PM | #18 |
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I'm waiting until I'm within 3 months as well. My lease ends 10/13/14.
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OP, you have no chance of getting a CPO on your car. If you read the CPO checklist, a car under consideration for CPO is automatically failed if there are any non-BMW performance modifications or non-OEM safety-related components -- unless of course the dealer wants to replace all of those with OEM parts in order to CPO the car. The KW V3, BBK (and its non-OEM pads), camber plates, harnesses, Lux, and painted reflectors all qualify under one or both of those general guidelines, and in fact the checklist specifically calls out all of those items individually except the painted reflectors.
As for buying out the lease, my understanding had been that you just pay BMW FS the buyout amount, in which case you never need to get it inspected or anything. You're buying the car for the agreed-upon price, so they don't care what condition it's in. But according to others in this thread, there are ways to get better pricing working with some dealers (and possibly dealing with some inspections), so I defer to them on that topic. I'm not sure what Excess Wear and Tear Protection is, but it sounds like something to limit fees associated with returning a leased car that has high mileage, dings, etc. If you're buying the car out, I don't see the point in having that, and if it's designed only to limit your liability on returning a lease (which it sounds like it is), I doubt they'd let you use it for general repairs without turning the car in. In fact even if you WERE turning it in, it probably only acts as a fee waiver, not a means for you to get the car fixed yourself. Given that you've already bought the coverage, I also doubt there's a way to get a refund on it now. You don't get road hazard payments or insurance premiums back if you don't use those, after all. As for extended warranty alternatives to CPO, there are already tons of threads on that subject you can call up together by Googling "extended warranty site:m3post.com". Good luck!
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04-28-2014, 07:59 PM | #20 |
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This is very interesting, thanks.
It sounds like one could even buy the car at $1000 over auction price, and potentially flip it for profit. |
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Depends on how the residual and auction prices compare to market value at that time, but yes I suppose that's possible. Whether it's worth all the paperwork and effort to sell privately is another question. I doubt it would be economical to do this intending to trade it in at another dealer because I doubt the trade-in offer will be significantly more than auction price -- in fact it may even be lower if they plan to sell it at auction anyway since obviously they'll want to make money on the deal.
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