Won ebay auction at 60K for E90 M3, BMW of Lincoln refusing to honor

[lando]

Originally Posted by ideliver

While I am certainly not some stearship troll...I just looked up "my" BMW dealer and found a similiar BBB report...6 complaints in the last 36 months...seems typical for the industry...now if we could prove the ebay shill bidding...that would be a story

I agree that the complaints are typical in the industry. However, the number of complaints at this dealership is more than triple yours over the same time period. I agree though, proving shill bidding could have some very serious consequences--especially using the internet (wires, mail, and interstate commerce) to do it.

[Simracerworld]

Greetings from another Autoblog member.

Ken, this is just crazy...I'd have given up long before now, but you're keeping at it. Good job!

And I've sent this in to Top Gear and a few local TV stations--we'll see if it shows up

[mrmcderm]

Jeebus, what a soap opera this has become. Definately a strange course of events, I'm very curious to see the final outcome.

[condor27596]

My BMW dealer has one complaint in 36 months.

[The Pioneer 85]

I just got off the phone with the BMW of Lincoln, Nebraska where I spoke with a fellow we'll call Steve (who didn't want his name released) and he said that that they are 100 percent willing to honor their transaction with Ken Tanisaka once he completes payment.

I asked him what kind of payment would be accepted, and he said "For example, cash." I then asked, "Okay, now just for the sake of argument, If he was to pay via Paypal... would you accept that form of payment?" Steve then said, "Once it clears our account, yes.... We are just waiting for the paperwork to clear."

So it looks like they've had a change of heart. At least I hope so.

I joined just to share this, and hope Ken get his car soon.

[ideliver]

Originally Posted by The Pioneer 85

I asked him what kind of payment would be accepted, and he said "For example, cash."

Give 'em a big bag of quarters

[toddy33]

Originally Posted by condor27596

My BMW dealer has one complaint in 36 months.

Hm...interesting! I never thought to even check--even when I was buying! Duh...

Well, my Lexus dealer has 2 in 36 months; both resolved.

[The Pioneer 85]

make sure you notify the bloghounds about this, and somebody should digg it or something. My luck with submitting stories to blogs isn't that great, perhaps in force...?

At least they're willing to handle it. Not the reaction I was expecting though, I was prepared for some rude guy or a shouting match, at the very least to be hung up on, and this fella only seemed to want all this crap done and over with.

EDIT:

this was for the phone call I had, here for all those who want to read but don't want to flip through pages:

I just got off the phone with the BMW of Lincoln, Nebraska where I spoke with a fellow we'll call Steve (who didn't want his name released) and he said that that they are 100 percent willing to honor their transaction with Ken Tanisaka once he completes payment.

I asked him what kind of payment would be accepted, and he said "For example, cash." I then asked, "Okay, now just for the sake of argument, If he was to pay via Paypal... would you accept that form of payment?" Steve then said, "Once it clears our account, yes.... We are just waiting for the paperwork to clear."

So it looks like they've had a change of heart.

anyway, share away.

[Elisabeth]

Originally Posted by MadDog

I don't know Ken, but have been following this saga for the last few days, and it's been very entertaining. Yes, I've also eaten a lot of

So entertaining, in fact, that I propose that everyone who has been entertained PayPal Ken a dollar (or two or three or four), to pay the full amount of his M3.

What say ye, net denizens ?? I'll send the first $10.00.


Ken would need to post or send us his e-mail account so we can PayPay it to him....

And, no, I'm not a shill, I've been posting on E90Post since I've owned my E90.

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I'm all for the guy getting his car, but I think essentially having the Internet community *give* him the car (when he could afford it on his own to begin with), is overreactive and silly.

I know many people (such as myself) can barely afford a $15k car, so that gesture, while well meant, seems... well, dumb.

Why not do as a previous poster suggested and buy the car (if Ken doesn't take it), and donate it to a charity so they can auction off the car to fund its cause? I know many reputable foundations that would delight in this action.

Just my two cents. :P

[lando]

Originally Posted by toddy33

Hm...interesting! I never thought to even check--even when I was buying! Duh...

Well, my Lexus dealer has 2 in 36 months; both resolved.

My dealer has 0 complaints in 36 months.

[mbonus]

Originally Posted by Elisabeth

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I'm all for the guy getting his car, but I think essentially having the Internet community *give* him the car (when he could afford it on his own to begin with), is overreactive and silly.

I know many people (such as myself) can barely afford a $15k car, so that gesture, while well meant, seems... well, dumb.

Why not do as a previous poster suggested and buy the car (if Ken doesn't take it), and donate it to a charity so they can auction off the car to fund its cause? I know many reputable foundations that would delight in this action.

Just my two cents. :P

Agreed, and I think Ken has said as much as well above.

[yogaflame]

Originally Posted by condor27596

There have been some really good lawyer replies here.

Can anybody step up now?
Maybe there are some LEOs reading the forums (?)

Is not shill bidding and the like a Federal crime?
If it is they could probably add conspiracy to it also.
(and no telling what else I'm not a lawyer)

Any ideas out there?

Will the internet community forgive and forget about the possibility of shill bidding?

Will a politician or governmental department investigate?

Will eBay take action and slap Husker on its wrist?

Will nothing happen?

Stay tuned to page 127 for more details!

Reads like an episode of the old Batman TV show... but either way, IF shill bidding is going on, someone NEEDS to go to jail and fines NEED to be levied.

[MadDog]

Originally Posted by Elisabeth

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I'm all for the guy getting his car, but I think essentially having the Internet community *give* him the car (when he could afford it on his own to begin with), is overreactive and silly.

I know many people (such as myself) can barely afford a $15k car, so that gesture, while well meant, seems... well, dumb.

Why not do as a previous poster suggested and buy the car (if Ken doesn't take it), and donate it to a charity so they can auction off the car to fund its cause? I know many reputable foundations that would delight in this action.

Just my two cents. :P

I just thought it would make a good story. So, it was a dumb idea.

I do like the charity idea, but Ken is well on his way to buying the car.



Ok, so how about we take up a collection to get Fil Catania a haircut ??

[toddy33]

Originally Posted by MadDog

Ok, so how about we take up a collection to get Fil Catania a haircut ??

How 'bout some Extenze?

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by Stealth_M

could someone please make a listing of 'dooma350' on Wikipeia because i can't find anything there.

Yeah, we can start a new word in the English langauge meaning "screwed".

Example: Damn, that guyed Doomad me".

[wrxgoose]

Originally Posted by MadDog

Ok, so how about we take up a collection to get Fil Catania a haircut ??

i live in NC, but i'm up for that. lol. if i could get off school (college blows, but is needed, i know) then i would come out there just to watch him get it. lol

maybe ken can make one of his conditions that he gets to shave fil's head?

[MadDog]

Originally Posted by toddy33

How 'bout some Extenze?

[MadDog]

Originally Posted by wrxgoose

maybe ken can make one of his conditions that he gets to shave fil's head?

That would definitely be some good publicity.

[Tallest]

well if dealer is complying, then lets hope the thing is sorted before the weekend.. its getting long.

[wrxgoose]

is anyone else going back and forth between this and another page? i come back here after reading a post on the other forum i'm on, and hit F5 to see if anyone replied yet. i have no life. lol

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by TurboFan

I think a 24x36 poster of you with the car, shipped to BMW o Lincoln would be a nice touch. Tell 'em thanks for the great deal.

Should be accompanied with a list of things the dealership could have bought with the 4K they are losing by having to sell this car under invoice

[rainsux]

Perhaps Fil can cut an endorsement deal and book signing tour with the publisher!