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04-09-2024, 08:11 PM | #1 |
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Hello all, I recently got new brakes on my E92 M3 and since I plan on tracking the car this season I went with Hawk DTC 70’s and was just going to run them every day so I wouldn’t have to swap pads constantly. I knew there was going to be noise but it’s a lot worse than I was expecting lol. My question is, I’m looking at the Hawk HPS as my street pad and keeping my DTC 70’s just for track. Are the HPS a good street pad (not super noise with 10 tons of brake dust)? And should I re-bed my brakes every time I swap them? And how should I bed them in? Thanks
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04-09-2024, 11:57 PM | #2 |
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As you found out, you cannot drive on the street with race brake pad compounds. Every once in awhile, someone gets lucky and can drive a race pad on the street quietly. Also, you shouldn’t do it because race pads not up to temp literally machine away your brake rotors.
You’ll read online about race pads and street pads are not compatible but in my 35+ years of tracking, I have not once had an issue with swapping back and forth between race pads and street pads. I suppose there’s some combo of pads that are incompatible but I haven’t found it. I tried the Hawk HPS pads as a street pad on my e46 M3 and I absolutely hated it. It didn’t bite old and it didn’t bite hot. Hawk may have altered the pad compound since I used it but I’ll never try it again. For the street, are you looking for a daily driving type of brake pad or a high performance carving thru the mountains type of brake pad? High dust or low dust? Totally quiet or some squealing is ok? |
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Check out Endless CCRg. It's a track pad that's streetable (barely) but it does tend to chew up rotors if u don't have really high quality rotors.
Generally you can swap pads from the same manufacturer without worrying too much about bedding in again. |
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04-10-2024, 07:25 PM | #5 |
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I just threw Akeboner pads on my car for the street. Good bite when cold and minimal dust, less dust than every other pad I've used. Too much initial bite for my taste but I don't really like much initial bite.
I have not tested them on a hard backroad drive, but during my commute no heat issues. I would def recommend them as a street pad. once in a while when cold I get a mild squeal but I never greased them or installed those shims.
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But if the Akebozos can stand a little canyon carving then they're darn near perfect street pad for me (I have seperate track pads)
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The bedding process does 2 things. First thing is that it "bakes" the lining material, which finishes the sintering process. And the second thing ads lining material on the rotor. After a pad replacement you should always follow the manufacturer bedding procedure.
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04-15-2024, 05:46 PM | #11 |
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I never really bed street pads lol. But that's me. Some hard braking zones on a backroad should be enough. Just don't come to a complete stop.
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04-17-2024, 11:27 AM | #12 |
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I've been on Stoptech Sport pads for about 6 years now and they are a good "compromise" pad. Higher temp than OEM but has decent cold bite - I've used them throughout northeast US winters - and low dust. Even used them for a track day (intermediate group so nothing crazy) a while back and they held up nicely. There was some soft pedal by the end of the day but no significant pad fade. Seem to have good wear characteristics on the street too.
I tried Hawk HPS on a different car years ago for the street and hated them in the cold temps and rain. Would never try them again.
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04-17-2024, 11:58 AM | #13 |
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Carbotech 1521 and Cobalt XR5 are great street performance pads with minimal dust. I haven’t tried the Akebono Euro’s but I’ve from many people saying they are a good street pad, not a street performance pad.
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