GIAC ECU Beta Flash with VFE Air Filter, Dyno Results

DLSJ5 · 06-03-2009, 12:22 AM

GIAC will be releasing an ECU flash soon, here are a few dyno plots done on a Mustang Dyno, which is more conservative in comparison to most DJ's. Another M3 with an Exhaust, made 320whp, not pictured in these plots though. The 328 baseline is from the same bonestock car before the ECU flash and Filter.

EDIT: These dyno's are SAE

Stock Baseline, vs. GIAC Flash with VFE Air Filter.

Here's my car with the GIAC Flash/VFE Filter, as well as the Pulley and Xpipe compared to the other car, not the best comparison as they were taken weeks apart, regardless some healthy gains over the powerband.

After the GIAC Flash, the throttle response was improved, speed limiter is removed as well. It should be available at GIAC dealers soon, based on my results vs. other cars, I'd highly recommend it!

powertrip · 06-03-2009, 01:17 AM

The gains for the software look a little high and the gains for the x-pipe & pulley look a little low. Same dyno operator? Same correction method?

DLSJ5 · 06-03-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

The gains for the software look a little high and the gains for the x-pipe & pulley look a little low. Same dyno operator? Same correction method?

Same everything I believe, except my car was not used as the baseline, regardless there's still gains there, different day, car and mods do not simply add up when combined, those all played a factor with my results. The xpipe alone showed nice gains in other dyno's.

The baseline before, then the ECU and filter after, show the gains, that's what ultimately matters, the filter is good for a few ponies so add that together with the ECU gains as well, I believe they made 3-5 more with the filter, so 20 or so is not unusual for an ECU tune on the S65, albiet higher than some.

Personally a dyno is not how I measure my cars performance, I usually like to do comparo runs with other cars, and so far my car has performed better than expected in the many runs I've done, so I know it's making the power.

DLSJ5 · 06-03-2009, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

What kind of dyno correction was used?

Pretty sure GIAC uses SAE, I will find out for certain Robert.

HPoint · 06-03-2009, 09:35 AM

So theses are custom tunes correct?
I need a good reliable mail in tune...

DLSJ5 · 06-03-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by HPoint

So theses are custom tunes correct?
I need a good reliable mail in tune...

It is not a custom tune! You won't have to mail in your ECU either, any GIAC dealer will be able to flash it.

DLSJ5 · 06-03-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PencilGeek

In your previous dyno, you had a different filter and 200 CELL catalytic converter. Those aren't mentioned here. Did they change?

Here's a link to your previous dyno:
http://bmw.pencilgeek.org/showDyno.html?recID=25

Good questions, all are the same, except the AFE was swapped out for the VFE filter and the dyno's are SAE corrected.

M3 996 · 06-03-2009, 01:31 PM

I have been waiting for GIAC to enter this arena... loved the flash on my old Porsche 996... no problems what-so-ever with reliability, or with dealer.

jackolo · 06-03-2009, 01:49 PM

If I don't have to mail away my ECU, this will certainly be the choice for me.
Also I hear great things about GIAC from the Porsche Boards.

HPoint · 06-03-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DLSJ5

It is not a custom tune! You won't have to mail in your ECU either, any GIAC dealer will be able to flash it.

Great. Thanks!

DLSJ5 · 06-04-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 996

I have been waiting for GIAC to enter this arena... loved the flash on my old Porsche 996... no problems what-so-ever with reliability, or with dealer.

Agreed, currently I believe a GIAC flashed Stage 1 996TT, has the best trap, I think it's 126mph!

DLSJ5 · 06-04-2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HPoint

Great. Thanks!

NP, contact Austin at GIAC, he can give you more details than me.

aus · 06-04-2009, 10:53 PM

Where is GIAC in Cali?

DLSJ5 · 06-04-2009, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

Where is GIAC in Cali?

Irvine.

http://www.giacusa.com/

aus · 06-04-2009, 11:58 PM

Are they selling this or taking beta testers? I'm in Irvine regularly.

DLSJ5 · 06-06-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

Are they selling this or taking beta testers? I'm in Irvine regularly.

I think they have a few already, but contact Austin, see what he can do for you.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 06-21-2009, 05:04 AM

Yes, I do agree that GIAC &VF is a solid combo. I have a VF-RSR kit on my Golf GTI and it was smooth as silk. Now I am wait for the GIAC flash & VF supercharger kit. I think it will be a monster. Now all I need is the flash to get the ball rolling.

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