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      06-13-2019, 07:21 PM   #177
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I'll be honest, this whole thing reeks of BS. Blaming the engine or BMW for the engine failure does not sit well with me at all. Sure, car manufacturers make mistakes and aren't perfect, but owners do have to take some responsibility for their cars. Personally, I don't buy it for a minute that the failure was due to the key or the wrapper that some how got logged in the motor. You probably didn't hear a reply from them due to the nature in which you framed your response and the fact the story just isn't believable. You certainly don't have to buy another BMW ever, but I don't think it matters which brand you guys own and will experience failures. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks this, I just was the first to actually say it. Don't take it personally, I'm just voicing my disbelief and utter dissatisfaction in how this was addressed.
BS in what sense? In the sense that some experts weighed in here and said that this is a rod bearing failure? Almost all those here that are knowledgeable said it's not a wrapper issue and more a design screw up with these engines. Let me put things in perspective for you guys. Cars are the second biggest purchase for someone after a house. And if by 2013, car manufacturers still don't know how to make reliable engines, then I don't know what to tell you.
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I'm in Canada and I can't ship it here due to car manufacturers lobbying governments to prevent people from moving cars into North America from Europe or the rest of the world.
Protectionism at its best. If this car was with me in Canada I would have taken care of it.
So I got screwed twice by car manufacturers. Lucky guy, I guess.

My brother will drive it in the Mid East as he's on a work stint there. We'll keep it for now. If it sells, great. If not, here's hoping the new engine comes with rod bearings that won't fail.
It won't. They just released the measurements for the bearings, nowhere near industry standards or something. You're better off replacing them with something extra clearance.
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I'll be honest, this whole thing reeks of BS. Blaming the engine or BMW for the engine failure does not sit well with me at all. Sure, car manufacturers make mistakes and aren't perfect, but owners do have to take some responsibility for their cars. Personally, I don't buy it for a minute that the failure was due to the key or the wrapper that some how got logged in the motor. You probably didn't hear a reply from them due to the nature in which you framed your response and the fact the story just isn't believable. You certainly don't have to buy another BMW ever, but I don't think it matters which brand you guys own and will experience failures. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks this, I just was the first to actually say it. Don't take it personally, I'm just voicing my disbelief and utter dissatisfaction in how this was addressed.
BS in what sense? In the sense that some experts weighed in here and said that this is a rod bearing failure? Almost all those here that are knowledgeable said it's not a wrapper issue and more a design screw up with these engines. Let me put things in perspective for you guys. Cars are the second biggest purchase for someone after a house. And if by 2013, car manufacturers still don't know how to make reliable engines, then I don't know what to tell you.
See, you are missing the boat on the whole thing. I've been in law enforcement for over 22 years which included investigating a variety of crimes and interviewing people. The doesn't pass the smell test for a minute. In fact, my wife who works in the insurance industry said that she has seen the exact same story before and it was total BS. Your experts merely provide an opinion and no factual basis for what happened. If this was a true act of vandalism, then why no police report or insurance investigation? That's because no one believes it for a second. I could see why someone did it by the way you act in this whole thread. You'll find that people are more responsive when you're not acting like a douce bag to them. Best of luck with the car and in your future endeavors.
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I'll be honest, this whole thing reeks of BS. Blaming the engine or BMW for the engine failure does not sit well with me at all. Sure, car manufacturers make mistakes and aren't perfect, but owners do have to take some responsibility for their cars. Personally, I don't buy it for a minute that the failure was due to the key or the wrapper that some how got logged in the motor. You probably didn't hear a reply from them due to the nature in which you framed your response and the fact the story just isn't believable. You certainly don't have to buy another BMW ever, but I don't think it matters which brand you guys own and will experience failures. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks this, I just was the first to actually say it. Don't take it personally, I'm just voicing my disbelief and utter dissatisfaction in how this was addressed.
BS in what sense? In the sense that some experts weighed in here and said that this is a rod bearing failure? Almost all those here that are knowledgeable said it's not a wrapper issue and more a design screw up with these engines. Let me put things in perspective for you guys. Cars are the second biggest purchase for someone after a house. And if by 2013, car manufacturers still don't know how to make reliable engines, then I don't know what to tell you.
See, you are missing the boat on the whole thing. I've been in law enforcement for over 22 years which included investigating a variety of crimes and interviewing people. The doesn't pass the smell test for a minute. In fact, my wife who works in the insurance industry said that she has seen the exact same story before and it was total BS. Your experts merely provide an opinion and no factual basis for what happened. If this was a true act of vandalism, then why no police report or insurance investigation? That's because no one believes it for a second. I could see why someone did it by the way you act in this whole thread. You'll find that people are more responsive when you're not acting like a douce bag to them. Best of luck with the car and in your future endeavors.
Who said no police report was filed? If you investigate cases remotely based on gut feelings then good luck in your career
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I'll be honest, this whole thing reeks of BS. Blaming the engine or BMW for the engine failure does not sit well with me at all. Sure, car manufacturers make mistakes and aren't perfect, but owners do have to take some responsibility for their cars. Personally, I don't buy it for a minute that the failure was due to the key or the wrapper that some how got logged in the motor. You probably didn't hear a reply from them due to the nature in which you framed your response and the fact the story just isn't believable. You certainly don't have to buy another BMW ever, but I don't think it matters which brand you guys own and will experience failures. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks this, I just was the first to actually say it. Don't take it personally, I'm just voicing my disbelief and utter dissatisfaction in how this was addressed.
BS in what sense? In the sense that some experts weighed in here and said that this is a rod bearing failure? Almost all those here that are knowledgeable said it's not a wrapper issue and more a design screw up with these engines. Let me put things in perspective for you guys. Cars are the second biggest purchase for someone after a house. And if by 2013, car manufacturers still don't know how to make reliable engines, then I don't know what to tell you.
See, you are missing the boat on the whole thing. I've been in law enforcement for over 22 years which included investigating a variety of crimes and interviewing people. The doesn't pass the smell test for a minute. In fact, my wife who works in the insurance industry said that she has seen the exact same story before and it was total BS. Your experts merely provide an opinion and no factual basis for what happened. If this was a true act of vandalism, then why no police report or insurance investigation? That's because no one believes it for a second. I could see why someone did it by the way you act in this whole thread. You'll find that people are more responsive when you're not acting like a douce bag to them. Best of luck with the car and in your future endeavors.
Who said no police report was filed? If you investigate cases remotely based on gut feelings then good luck in your career
Thank you. You have proved my point in this matter.
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I'll be honest, this whole thing reeks of BS. Blaming the engine or BMW for the engine failure does not sit well with me at all. Sure, car manufacturers make mistakes and aren't perfect, but owners do have to take some responsibility for their cars. Personally, I don't buy it for a minute that the failure was due to the key or the wrapper that some how got logged in the motor. You probably didn't hear a reply from them due to the nature in which you framed your response and the fact the story just isn't believable. You certainly don't have to buy another BMW ever, but I don't think it matters which brand you guys own and will experience failures. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks this, I just was the first to actually say it. Don't take it personally, I'm just voicing my disbelief and utter dissatisfaction in how this was addressed.
BS in what sense? In the sense that some experts weighed in here and said that this is a rod bearing failure? Almost all those here that are knowledgeable said it's not a wrapper issue and more a design screw up with these engines. Let me put things in perspective for you guys. Cars are the second biggest purchase for someone after a house. And if by 2013, car manufacturers still don't know how to make reliable engines, then I don't know what to tell you.
See, you are missing the boat on the whole thing. I've been in law enforcement for over 22 years which included investigating a variety of crimes and interviewing people. The doesn't pass the smell test for a minute. In fact, my wife who works in the insurance industry said that she has seen the exact same story before and it was total BS. Your experts merely provide an opinion and no factual basis for what happened. If this was a true act of vandalism, then why no police report or insurance investigation? That's because no one believes it for a second. I could see why someone did it by the way you act in this whole thread. You'll find that people are more responsive when you're not acting like a douce bag to them. Best of luck with the car and in your future endeavors.
Who said no police report was filed? If you investigate cases remotely based on gut feelings then good luck in your career
Thank you. You have proved my point in this matter.
How did I prove you right? You and a bunch here have been trolling from day one. You're not all-knowing or all-seeing. You're at best hating because your life isn't going well. Some people sympathize and some people hate and mock. You simply fall in that second bucket. And I pray nothing weird happens to you and you go out to forums to ask for opinions. I said from day one this thread was mainly me trying to understand from the experts here the physics behind the failure. Trying to find out if the wrapper can fall in from the oil filler and cause blockage. See my original post. Then you and a bunch of heroes started preaching I did this to my own car or my brother did it. Putting aside how preposterous these accusations are or how amazing of an insurance adjuster your wife is (i could give two Fs) this thread is not a police investigation nor am I supposed to make any story sit well with you. You're the douchebag and so are the others who took tangents trying to incriminate me unjustly and without knowledge. The F would I go to forums if this was fraud? Police reports don't account for anything nor does insurance cover vandalism from the inside. We checked. Go ask your wife before you hate.
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I'll be honest, this whole thing reeks of BS. Blaming the engine or BMW for the engine failure does not sit well with me at all. Sure, car manufacturers make mistakes and aren't perfect, but owners do have to take some responsibility for their cars. Personally, I don't buy it for a minute that the failure was due to the key or the wrapper that some how got logged in the motor. You probably didn't hear a reply from them due to the nature in which you framed your response and the fact the story just isn't believable. You certainly don't have to buy another BMW ever, but I don't think it matters which brand you guys own and will experience failures. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks this, I just was the first to actually say it. Don't take it personally, I'm just voicing my disbelief and utter dissatisfaction in how this was addressed.
BS in what sense? In the sense that some experts weighed in here and said that this is a rod bearing failure? Almost all those here that are knowledgeable said it's not a wrapper issue and more a design screw up with these engines. Let me put things in perspective for you guys. Cars are the second biggest purchase for someone after a house. And if by 2013, car manufacturers still don't know how to make reliable engines, then I don't know what to tell you.
See, you are missing the boat on the whole thing. I've been in law enforcement for over 22 years which included investigating a variety of crimes and interviewing people. The doesn't pass the smell test for a minute. In fact, my wife who works in the insurance industry said that she has seen the exact same story before and it was total BS. Your experts merely provide an opinion and no factual basis for what happened. If this was a true act of vandalism, then why no police report or insurance investigation? That's because no one believes it for a second. I could see why someone did it by the way you act in this whole thread. You'll find that people are more responsive when you're not acting like a douce bag to them. Best of luck with the car and in your future endeavors.
Who said no police report was filed? If you investigate cases remotely based on gut feelings then good luck in your career
Thank you. You have proved my point in this matter.
How did I prove you right? You and a bunch here have been trolling from day one. You're not all-knowing or all-seeing. You're at best hating because your life isn't going well. Some people sympathize and some people hate and mock. You simply fall in that second bucket. And I pray nothing weird happens to you and you go out to forums to ask for opinions. I said from day one this thread was mainly me trying to understand from the experts here the physics behind the failure. Trying to find out if the wrapper can fall in from the oil filler and cause blockage. See my original post. Then you and a bunch of heroes started preaching I did this to my own car or my brother did it. Putting aside how preposterous these accusations are or how amazing of an insurance adjuster your wife is (i could give two Fs) this thread is not a police investigation nor am I supposed to make any story sit well with you. You're the douchebag and so are the others who took tangents trying to incriminate me unjustly and without knowledge. The F would I go to forums if this was fraud? Police reports don't account for anything nor does insurance cover vandalism from the inside. We checked. Go ask your wife before you hate.
Speaking of, this is also the last time I post anything on this forum because when people hide behind aliases and handles their worst comes out. These pansies for sure act all polite in front of their bosses and colleagues but on the internet their hate shines. How useless was this experience for me I can't begin to capture. Shovelling through tons of Bs to get to a few knowledgeable people. I'm appreciative but oh my will I not do that again
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Speaking of, this is also the last time I post anything on this forum because when people hide behind aliases and handles their worst comes out. These pansies for sure act all polite in front of their bosses and colleagues but on the internet their hate shines. How useless was this experience for me I can't begin to capture. Shovelling through tons of Bs to get to a few knowledgeable people. I'm appreciative but oh my will I not do that again
Boy, bye.
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$17k for a new motor installed seems very reasonable.. you gonna keep the old block and make a coffee table out of if? You could part out the rest and make back a little money...

I once knew a dude that kept a big rock as the center piece on his mantle and when asked about it he always told a story along the lines of "well I can't throw that away, it cost me $3k... it was the only thing left in my truck when I was making the rounds refilling machines on my vending machine route." Turns out someone threw the rock through his window and stole his lock box with the weekly take in it. I guess it taught him a lesson, an expensive one but one not to be forgotten. Not saying you have anything to learn from your experience but maybe a good conversation piece.
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I'm in Canada and I can't ship it here due to car manufacturers lobbying governments to prevent people from moving cars into North America from Europe or the rest of the world.
Protectionism at its best. If this car was with me in Canada I would have taken care of it.
So I got screwed twice by car manufacturers. Lucky guy, I guess.

My brother will drive it in the Mid East as he's on a work stint there. We'll keep it for now. If it sells, great. If not, here's hoping the new engine comes with rod bearings that won't fail.
At least you are saving money on gas prices. You can make up your $17K loss over time.
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$17k for a new motor installed seems very reasonable.. you gonna keep the old block and make a coffee table out of if? You could part out the rest and make back a little money...

I once knew a dude that kept a big rock as the center piece on his mantle and when asked about it he always told a story along the lines of "well I can't throw that away, it cost me $3k... it was the only thing left in my truck when I was making the rounds refilling machines on my vending machine route." Turns out someone threw the rock through his window and stole his lock box with the weekly take in it. I guess it taught him a lesson, an expensive one but one not to be forgotten. Not saying you have anything to learn from your experience but maybe a good conversation piece.
coffee table suggestion is a great idea!!! Let me tell my brother about that before they recycle it! I suppose I can sell the other parts, yes. Great suggestions! Much appreciated.

I don't know what lesson I ought to learn from this to be honest.
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I don't know what lesson I ought to learn from this to be honest.
Don't stress the opinions of folks on forums that don't know you?
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IBTL!

Let me guess- police report read something like this, "subject last saw a motor running fine on this date at this time subject came back to the motor and it was broken. Subject took the car to the dealership who subsequently found a key and a wrapper inside of it. Subject does not know who did this."

Pretty close?
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