S6 launch Vs LC

Wads · 06-16-2009, 10:25 AM

This is not going to be news to most people here but I wanted to post this up just in case there are people out their that like me haven't actually tried a hard take off in DCT S6 mode.

I drive my M3 pretty hard and spend 95% of the time using S5..... most of the time when I get the chance to floor it away from a stop light I will do just that and in S5 the car just takes off with minimal fuss after the noisy but controlled clutch drop. I've driven in S6 a bit on the move but didn't find the shifts noticably more violent than in S5 so it never occured to me that a standing start in S6 would be that different either!

Wrong!!!! I tried a foot to the floor standing start in S6 today and boy was it violent.... if anything it was more violent than when using the full on launch control.

So anyone that hasn't tried a full bore S6 start should find the nearest safe bit of road and try it!

///Armin · 06-16-2009, 10:54 AM

Well DCT is off in S6, hence the "violent" feel.

But I have tested both and I say LC is much better, with S6 there is way too much wheel spin and it's not controlled, LC is beautiful.

M3twins · 06-16-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ///Armin

Well DCT is off in S6, hence the "violent" feel.

That doesn't sound right.. I guess that DSC is off in S6.. I have 6MT, but either LC or S6 sounds pretty fun..

needspeed · 06-16-2009, 11:57 AM

In S6 and floor it, I just get spin from first and second into third. Makes for a great burnout, but no record setting 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In fact, you need to shift to 2nd almost right away to avoid rev limiter. Fun, but not if you are looking for a fast get away........Steve

MDCTFTW · 06-16-2009, 05:52 PM

S6 is tits.

riyatch · 06-16-2009, 06:39 PM

cant wait to try this. break in service in 2 days.

AMJ_77 · 06-16-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MDCTFTW

S6 is tits.

+1!!

S6 + 3.62 diff+ECU flash = neck snapping fun

nusevad · 06-16-2009, 08:08 PM

I dont have my LC anymore since DCT update so i cant compare

armyav8tor · 06-16-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

I dont have my LC anymore since DCT update so i cant compare

Care to elaborate? My DCT's been updated and LC is still there.

nusevad · 06-16-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by armyav8tor

Care to elaborate? My DCT's been updated and LC is still there.

Launch control no longer activates when the car is warm and driven after x amount of miles. I put it into S6, push forward on shifter and no flag...im 100% sure i did all the correct steps for LC too. I think im going to take it to the dealer and have them fix this...

I believe a few other members on the board had their LC's removed due to the update too..

Wads · 06-17-2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MDCTFTW

S6 is tits.

As tits are a superb invention I assume this is a positive comment?

tabolau · 06-17-2009, 03:23 AM

Did you make sure your foot is off to the brake? If you step on the brake, LC will not work.

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

Launch control no longer activates when the car is warm and driven after x amount of miles. I put it into S6, push forward on shifter and no flag...im 100% sure i did all the correct steps for LC too. I think im going to take it to the dealer and have them fix this...

I believe a few other members on the board had their LC's removed due to the update too..

dar2008 · 06-17-2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wads

As tits are a superb invention I assume this is a positive comment?

armyav8tor · 06-17-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

Launch control no longer activates when the car is warm and driven after x amount of miles. I put it into S6, push forward on shifter and no flag...im 100% sure i did all the correct steps for LC too. I think im going to take it to the dealer and have them fix this...

I believe a few other members on the board had their LC's removed due to the update too..

Interesting. I think it would be a good idea to take it to the dealer. My LC did not activate for back to back runs at the 1/4 mile track. I figured it was due to the temperature, it was well over 100 degrees that day.

URBAN LEGEND · 06-17-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by M3twins

That doesn't sound right.. I guess that DSC is off in S6.. I have 6MT, but either LC or S6 sounds pretty fun..

Yes Sir. DSC must be off for S6 to be accessible.

mikewads · 06-18-2009, 05:56 PM

Mickey Thompson makes a P265/40R18 ET Street Radial

Now I just need someone to mount these on a set of 18" factory wheels, head down to the local drag strip, put in S6 mode, and stomp on the gas!

Please report your results back to me..

frankzlin79 · 07-21-2009, 01:56 PM

How exactly do I get to S6 mode? Simply shut off DSC and push the selection mode button to the right one more time to go from S5 to S6? Will the display in between the speedo and tach show a sixth bar?

mkoesel · 07-21-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by frankzlin79

How exactly do I get to S6 mode? Simply shut off DSC and push the selection mode button to the right one more time to go from S5 to S6?

Yes.

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Will the display in between the speedo and tach show a sixth bar?

Yes.

zenderm3 · 07-21-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by riyatch

cant wait to try this. break in service in 2 days.

Good luck ryatch!

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Originally Posted by MDCTFTW

S6 is tits.

frankzlin79 · 07-21-2009, 08:56 PM

Okay. I shut off DSC. I am in S5. I push the selector up one more...and I do NOT get a sixth bar to show. What is the problem? Do I have to be sitting still when I make this selection or can I be driving and change to S6 on the fly?

!Xoible · 07-21-2009, 09:21 PM

I tried following what you did here.. i have a 6MT and tried launching the car in 6th gear. it wasnt fast at all... i think 1st gear is faster...

jk

URBAN LEGEND · 07-21-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frankzlin79

Okay. I shut off DSC. I am in S5. I push the selector up one more...and I do NOT get a sixth bar to show. What is the problem? Do I have to be sitting still when I make this selection or can I be driving and change to S6 on the fly?

Change it in the idrive menu.

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///Armin First Lieutenant 91 Rep 355 Posts Drives: AW E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern VA iTrader: (0)	Well DCT is off in S6, hence the "violent" feel. But I have tested both and I say LC is much better, with S6 there is way too much wheel spin and it's not controlled, LC is beautiful.
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needspeed First Lieutenant 10 Rep 319 Posts Drives: 10 X5 M/05 F430/12 CTS-V Coupe Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle of nowhere IOWA iTrader: (0)	In S6 and floor it, I just get spin from first and second into third. Makes for a great burnout, but no record setting 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. In fact, you need to shift to 2nd almost right away to avoid rev limiter. Fun, but not if you are looking for a fast get away........Steve __________________ 10 BMW X5 M Silverstone w/Black on Black interior - Loaded 12 CTS-V Coupe Thunder Gray - Loaded 13 Ford GT500 (650HP Priceless!!!!) as soon as can be delivered 05 F430 F1 - Giallo 08 BMW M3 Interlagos Blue Metallic - DCT (Traded)
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MDCTFTW Lieutenant Colonel 123 Rep 1,973 Posts Drives: E92 DCT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal iTrader: (0)	S6 is tits. __________________ MDCT ... so you can drive and eat a hamburger at the same time.
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riyatch Lieutenant 15 Rep 474 Posts Drives: e90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vegas iTrader: (1)	cant wait to try this. break in service in 2 days.
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frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 265 Rep 1,696 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	How exactly do I get to S6 mode? Simply shut off DSC and push the selection mode button to the right one more time to go from S5 to S6? Will the display in between the speedo and tach show a sixth bar?
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frankzlin79 Lieutenant Colonel 265 Rep 1,696 Posts Drives: 2018 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (5)	Okay. I shut off DSC. I am in S5. I push the selector up one more...and I do NOT get a sixth bar to show. What is the problem? Do I have to be sitting still when I make this selection or can I be driving and change to S6 on the fly?
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