B7 RS4 values increasing

[Biirdman50]

I was browsing KBB and NADA for different cars and noticed that the B7 RS4 is going up in value. I owned a black 07 in 2011 and had it for a year. I wasn't tooo crazy about it. It felt heavy and it was boring and didn't seem as fast as critics declared (yes carbon cleaning was done). Anyway, I put the mileage of both my M and the RS4 same year and the RS4 is worth about $5k more. Was there that much less rs4's production wise?! Even doing a basic search, people are asking $42k for a car with 60k miles, $26k for a car with 110k miles. I was not impressed at all with it.

[wyatth]

Cult following with no successor in the US. That’s a good recipe for strong resale. I don’t know production figures but they seem quite a bit rarer than than an e9xM as well.

[XKxRome0ox]

Yes, A LOT less RS4's made it to the US
only 2 years of production for US cars
i briefly considered it but it was really like looking for a needle in a haystack

[STooK]

Actually saw one on the road last week and it might've been the first time I saw one in the wild. Definitely a cool car, I don't think the premium is due to it being a better car than the M, most likely due to the rarity.

[Iyzmi]

Originally Posted by wyatth

Cult following with no successor in the US. That’s a good recipe for strong resale. I don’t know production figures but they seem quite a bit rarer than than an e9xM as well.

IIRC there are only 2,000 of them in the US so they are indeed very rare. That'll do it.

Also V8 and 6MT in a handsome luxury sedan. Very hard to come by these days, especially if you want AWD.

[Montaver]

Strange they never released the subsequent RS4 models in the US, I guess they felt sales numbers wouldn't be there. RS4 avant is the perfect all weather doge wagon.

[SDPLV]

Sedan
V8
6MT
AWD
[And not a WRX - which is a turbo 4 anyways]

I heavily considered one and still consider one at times. Just don't come around that much. Never got to drive one so can't say much else.

Wish it was a bit faster though - that's been the biggest deterrent for me. So much potential but seems a lot slower than our M3.

[Iyzmi]

Originally Posted by SDPLV

Sedan
V8
6MT
AWD
[And not a WRX - which is a turbo 4 anyways]

I heavily considered one and still consider one at times. Just don't come around that much. Never got to drive one so can't say much else.

Wish it was a bit faster though - that's been the biggest deterrent for me. So much potential but seems a lot slower than our M3.

Both the E9x M3 and B7 RS4 are not very fast by today's standards. In both cases, a supercharger is the solution .

[Biirdman50]

Yeah was very dissapointed with the rs4. It seemed too heavy. Even Jhm supercharged rs4s matched against ess supercharged m3s get destroyed 🤔

[New2Roundel]

Originally Posted by Biirdman50

Yeah was very dissapointed with the rs4. It seemed too heavy. Even Jhm supercharged rs4s matched against ess supercharged m3s get destroyed 🤔

No one's spending a premium on an RS4 to thrash one, particularly by adding FI. Not only is this particular RS4 rare, in general, we only ever got the B7 version of the RS4. I would guess that RS5 values are not the same as the RS4, as a result.

[Iyzmi]

Originally Posted by New2Roundel

No one's spending a premium on an RS4 to thrash one, particularly by adding FI. Not only is this particular RS4 rare, in general, we only ever got the B7 version of the RS4. I would guess that RS5 values are not the same as the RS4, as a result.

I'd actually be interested to see how popular supercharger kits are in the RS4 world. I'm sure they're not as common as supercharged M3s, but if nobody was doing it they wouldn't still be making the kits in the first place. If I bought an RS4, which I seriously considered prior to buying my M3, I would strongly consider supercharging it just as I have with my M3. The cost to get into an RS4 is in the same ballpark as an M3 and the supercharger kits cost about the same as well from what I've seen. Rarity wouldn't stop me from modding the car to my liking in this case.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Iyzmi

I'd actually be interested to see how popular supercharger kits are in the RS4 world. I'm sure they're not as common as supercharged M3s, but if nobody was doing it they wouldn't still be making the kits in the first place. If I bought an RS4, which I seriously considered prior to buying my M3, I would strongly consider supercharging it just as I have with my M3. The cost to get into an RS4 is in the same ballpark as an M3 and the supercharger kits cost about the same as well from what I've seen. Rarity wouldn't stop me from modding the car to my liking in this case.

They're popular enough that APR decided to offer kits. Even with pump gas, full interior, and street tires, it'll run almost 11 flat @ 123. Once you start putting race gas in, swapping to slicks, and removing some interior parts, you're in the mid-10s @ 130.

https://www.goapr.com/products/stage3plus_b7_rs4.html

JHM also has a kit that runs similar times, though it's a Vortech setup:

https://jhmotorsports.com/jhm-superc...4-stage-1.html

[Dr. Dre]

Originally Posted by dparm

They're popular enough that APR decided to offer kits. Even with pump gas, full interior, and street tires, it'll run almost 11 flat @ 123. Once you start putting race gas in, swapping to slicks, and removing some interior parts, you're in the mid-10s @ 130.

https://www.goapr.com/products/stage3plus_b7_rs4.html

JHM also has a kit that runs similar times, though it's a Vortech setup:

https://jhmotorsports.com/jhm-superc...4-stage-1.html

So what. How often do you think you're going to be able to do that before some part of the drive train fails. Just like guys come on and say the Lexus IS-F can handle tons of power. So what.

Pop the hood and just look where the engine is on that RS4 versus the front axle. Big front heavy pig.

[dparm]

Originally Posted by Dr. Dre

So what. How often do you think you're going to be able to do that before some part of the drive train fails. Just like guys come on and say the Lexus IS-F can handle tons of power. So what.

Pop the hood and just look where the engine is on that RS4 versus the front axle. Big front heavy pig.

I'm not claiming you can abuse the car like that indefinitely, I'm just replying to the question about supercharging the RS4 motor. I doubt people are going to be taking it to the drag strip and dumping the clutch like that all the time anyway.

Those kits have been out for years but I don't follow the Audi scene anymore. Would be interesting to check in on Audizine and see how many guys are racking up the miles on S/C RS4s.

[Dr. Dre]

Originally Posted by dparm

I'm not claiming you can abuse the car like that indefinitely, I'm just replying to the question about supercharging the RS4 motor. I doubt people are going to be taking it to the drag strip and dumping the clutch like that all the time anyway.

Those kits have been out for years but I don't follow the Audi scene anymore. Would be interesting to check in on Audizine and see how many guys are racking up the miles on S/C RS4s.

I guess I have a strong reaction because never really got into drag racing. The only thing I like about the RS4 is the noise engine makes. The ego part of me would maybe say the fact that it's so rare.

I guess I'm getting old because the stock M3 seems pretty fast.

[B8bydesign]

Originally Posted by Iyzmi

IIRC there are only 2,000 of them in the US so they are indeed very rare. That'll do it.

Also V8 and 6MT in a handsome luxury sedan. Very hard to come by these days, especially if you want AWD.

1,475 in 2007 and 839 in 2008, for a total of 2314 sedans in the US (and 333 convertibles).

Originally Posted by Biirdman50

Yeah was very dissapointed with the rs4. It seemed too heavy. Even Jhm supercharged rs4s matched against ess supercharged m3s get destroyed ��

That's not much of a fair comparison, where ESS has proven to be extremely reliable in the M3 world and produce great numbers, the JHM kit (and tune) has grenaded quite a few RS4's.

Originally Posted by New2Roundel

No one's spending a premium on an RS4 to thrash one, particularly by adding FI. Not only is this particular RS4 rare, in general, we only ever got the B7 version of the RS4. I would guess that RS5 values are not the same as the RS4, as a result.

That and no 6MT offered with the RS5.

Originally Posted by dparm

They're popular enough that APR decided to offer kits. Even with pump gas, full interior, and street tires, it'll run almost 11 flat @ 123. Once you start putting race gas in, swapping to slicks, and removing some interior parts, you're in the mid-10s @ 130.

[url]https://www.goapr.com/products/stage3plus_b7_rs4.html[url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU2yTdG75vA[url]


JHM also has a kit that runs similar times, though it's a Vortech setup:

[url]https://jhmotorsports.com/jhm-supercharger-kit-for-b7-rs4-stage-1.html[url]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YplHFvLXqbY[url]

Unfortunately APR no longer offers their TVS1740 kit, and as I state above, I would not recommend the JHM kit (my personal opinion). Right now if you were to S/C an RS4, I would go with the TTS kit available overseas (https://www.tts-performance.co.uk/single-post/2016/10/25/Audi-R8-42-ltr-V8-1) or the AMD kit (https://www.fastaudi.com/store/AMD-RS4-Supercharger-Kit-p51069756) here in the states.


TTS Kit

Another TTS fitted car

TTS 1/4 mile

AMD vs JHM

AMD vs APR

[spazzyfry123]

Neat cars.

RS4 Avant is SUPER neat.

[B8bydesign]

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

Neat cars.

RS4 Avant is SUPER neat.

And if you hurry you can have one in the states!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2008-audi-rs4-13/

[spazzyfry123]

Originally Posted by B8bydesign

And if you hurry you can have one in the states!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2008-audi-rs4-13/

I've been keeping my eye on that for sure! I'm thinking we'll see mid $40s?

[B8bydesign]

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

I've been keeping my eye on that for sure! I'm thinking we'll see mid $40s?

Possibly, but I'm fairly confident he set the reserve in the mid 50's, so unless something crazy happens I'm not expecting it to sell.

[m3jala]

I personally have always liked the rs4 partly due to its rarity. Have never had the opportunity to drive one and I guess based on feedback here and from others after the e92 it will be meh.

This said the sound is sweet and these samples come from a special time in the German engineering. Now it's all turbos. Couple years and they'll come back.

[spazzyfry123]

Originally Posted by B8bydesign

Possibly, but I'm fairly confident he set the reserve in the mid 50's, so unless something crazy happens I'm not expecting it to sell.

Womp womp...