Won ebay auction at 60K for E90 M3, BMW of Lincoln refusing to honor

[NIZMOZ]

Your story has made it to many websites including ClubLexus and My350z.com.

We are all supporting you here man...so keep it up. Definitely take them down.
Since a lawyer is getting involved, you might just get the car for free now.

[3aficionado]

Originally Posted by ArtPE

this is sad...a representation of all that is wrong with MY Country...
a bunch of parisites feeding on a mistake...
anger and hatred abound...
I saw that on a couple of dealer assoc. sites that the guy has received death threats....nice....

a reasonble jury could go both ways:
a mistake was made, and some guy is trying to capitalize on it, and damage a local businessman...yuppie scum
the delaer will say, mistake, and we made a good faith effort to appease the customer with a 3k discount...what will you say?

they made a mistake, I want the car, who cares if the guy loses his job, his problem, not mine, just give me my sports car and screw him...classy

or that the deal must be honored...if their was a deal...the dealer was 'cheating'...and fraudulent...
the courts will decide this, not us...

a member, with no relationship to the case, actually called and threatened legal action, for what? it's assinine bordering on the absurd...if doctor hurts a stranger, can I sue that doctor? he lost nothing, did not bid on the car, no connection at all...
after I got done laughing, if I felt like wasting money, I'd have my lawyer call him, maybe sue for harrassment...

the ebay resolution phase has not even played out yet...
and we are character assassinating the guy...pathetic...

these things happen all the time, for much larger stakes, that's why we have courts, to remedy this...instead we have this enet lynch mob action...sad yet amusing...

karma is a biotch...it would suck to end up wrapping this ill gotten gain around a tele pole...

Ill gotten gain???? The dealer advertised a no reserve M3 starting at 60k & left it on ebay until it closed. The car is being sold above MSRP so its not like they buyer was capitalizing on anything. How is it ill gotten gain? With all due respect you don't sound like someone who knows the law at all. The law is on the buyers side on this one. Precedent has been set for cases of backed out deals and cases of misleading advertising.

Advertising mistakes can be taken into account but it wont be held to same standard as a printed ad since it was on ebay. The dealer at any time could have realized their mistake and changed or removed the ad.

There wouldn't be a jury trial on a dealer advertising case so I dont know where you got that. A judge would rule with the law and against a shady dealer trying to keep a car so they can get an even higher markup than the agreed upon above MSRP price. No sympathy will be given for that action in a court.

I doubt a lawyer not affiliated with the buyer called the dealer to threaten legal action. That lawyer would be disbarred.

There is so much inaccuracy in your post I cant even begin to point out all the places where you are wrong with your assumptions about the law. After reading your post I am reminded of a quote from Billy Madison: "Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

[orionredwing]

Congratulations to the OP for the positive results w/ Lincoln BMW! As dooma350 know, I've been supporting him privately, and have been following this situation closely like all of you.

Just like many others on here, I've done my work offline to get the word out, but as I was trying for a much bigger outlet, didn't want to post the specifics here to prevent rumors from exploding out.

Still, I am very very glad to see some positive results, and congrats to dooma350 again. Let's hope that the conditions aren't unreasonable, and that it's smooth sailing from this point forward.

For all the rest, I've skipped over all the rants / poor language posts, etc. This has been a great thread. Let's not ruin it at the end w/ the use of poor language and character...

...most people skip to the end in a huge thread like this. Let's not let the first thing they read be of people cussin each other out, because the rest of the posts are really inspiring to read.

[qikslvr]

Originally Posted by dooma350

Sorry its taken so long to post a update. The site is very slow (understandably). This morning, BMW of Lincoln has agreed to sell me the car at a price of 60K, with certain conditions. I'll be going over the conditions with the dealership tommorow, and I hope to have everything finalized by tommorow afternoon.

But one thing that I would like to make everyone aware of is, BMW of Lincoln is proactively working to correct the situation that they screwed up. And yes, they screwed up big time, no doubt about that.They are trying to do right, so please don't harass the dealership right now. No phone calls, threats, emails or fake sales calls.

That said, I would just like to take a step back for a moment.
The past few days have been insane. Just thinking about what has transpired, leaves you speechless really. How did this thing go from a M3post.com rant to what it became today? In 3 days, the site amassed
650+ comments and 200,000 page views, with people posting from all around the world, lending their support and help. Thats people I dont even know! Amazing stuff, and probably the coolest thing I have ever
been part of, leveraging the internet in a way that I have never seen before. People I have never met, making calls on my behalf, contacting automotive sites, supplying information, just doing anything and everything possible to help out.

Lets do it again sometime, I hope to be there for someone when they are in need.

Thanks guys, there are good people in this world after all.
I'll post again tommorow.

Regards

Ken

Just let us know if you need a local to go to the dealership for anything. I'm just 30 minutes down the freeway in Omaha. Glad to hear they are going to work with you. Again, there are a couple Nebraska locals here that are willing to help if you need photo's, a personal inspection or anything before you finish up and take delivery of the vehicle.

[eclipsisNA]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

You can profile anyone on forums. You can look at what someone else posts. Find photos of their cars... what ever. People don't understand that everything you do online is public record. It is a massive CRM database. That's why you really need to be careful about what you say. A recruiter for example can look up your name in Myspace, or Facebook, and read your profile and how you act and socialize and make a decision based on that. It's dangerous.

I appreciate the recommendation Laszlo, but like I said, you should always stand by what you say no matter who hears it.

[runutzzzzz]

Originally Posted by AML

Did jharden just change his vehicle from 335i to Benz? Makes us owners look bad right now...

He NOW drives a Benz... Now it makes sense why he's acting the way he does... LOL

[MadDog]

Originally Posted by orionredwing

Congratulations to the OP for the positive results w/ Lincoln BMW! As dooma350 know, I've been supporting him privately, and have been following this situation closely like all of you.

Just like many others on here, I've done my work offline to get the word out, but as I was trying for a much bigger outlet, didn't want to post the specifics here to prevent rumors from exploding out.

Still, I am very very glad to see some positive results, and congrats to dooma350 again. Let's hope that the conditions aren't unreasonable, and that it's smooth sailing from this point forward.

For all the rest, I've skipped over all the rants / poor language posts, etc. This has been a great thread. Let's not ruin it at the end w/ the use of poor language and character...

...most people skip to the end in a huge thread like this. Let's not let the first thing they read be of people cussin each other out, because the rest of the posts are really inspiring to read.

+1. Ahhh.. A voice of reason from the Bay Area.

[3aficionado]

Originally Posted by qikslvr

Just let us know if you need a local to go to the dealership for anything. I'm just 30 minutes down the freeway in Omaha. Glad to hear they are going to work with you. Again, there are a couple Nebraska locals here that are willing to help if you need photo's, a personal inspection or anything before you finish up and take delivery of the vehicle.

I recommend he take a local lawyer with him. Although if I were him I would pick the lawyer outside an internet forum and pay the lawyer so he is obligated to work on his behalf.

That aside , your offer for a local person is very generous.

[Junior Barnes]

Originally Posted by ArtPE

look at my join date, I was around long before the dealer...
you're being parnoid...

It's "paranoid." Be careful not to correct others until you're sure yours is perfect.

Say what you will; you're nothing but a textbook troll, and I'm not the only one here who would like to see you go away.

[na335i]

Originally Posted by Junior Barnes

It's "paranoid." Be careful not to correct others until you're sure yours is perfect.

Say what you will; you're nothing but a textbook troll, and I'm not the only one here who would like to see you go away.

+1

[ArtPE]

Originally Posted by Junior Barnes

It's "paranoid." Be careful not to correct others until you're sure yours is perfect.

Say what you will; you're nothing but a textbook troll, and I'm not the only one here who would like to see you go away.

"paranoid." should be "paranoid" .

too bad, it's not your call now is it?

[rainsux]

Laszlo> ... be more careful about what you say, especially on a public forum. This is public record after all. Especially you, Xcellere ...be more careful about what you say, especially on a public forum. This is public record after all. Especially you, Xcellere

Excellent advice.

ArtPE is also placing himself at unnecessary risk. PE registrations are a
matter of public record ... and his state makes them avail on-line.

[Junior Barnes]

THANK YOU to the Mods at m3post! Bye bye, ArtPE!

Now, back to the topic at hand...

[Krueger///M3]

Was ArtPE actually banned?

[na335i]

Originally Posted by Junior Barnes

THANK YOU to the Mods at m3post! Bye bye, ArtPE!

Now, back to the topic at hand...

[Junior Barnes]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Yes, ArtPE should also refrain. One thing to act like this is a low profile topic but this is national now and the exposure is too great. All of this will be here in cyberspace forever. You guys need a group hug.

I'm down.

*group hug*

Okay, now FOCUS, people!

[bradbmw]

Originally Posted by ArtPE

"paranoid." should be "paranoid" .

too bad, it's not your call now is it?

Junior had it correct. The punctuation should be inside the quotations.

"paranoid."

Troll, be gone.

[asif163]

Wow- it took me a LONG time to read that thread- and everytime I thought I was almost finished there were more pages to read. In any case, ladies & gentleman, behold the power of the internet! Amazing story and congrats to you Dooma! Hopefully those conditions aren't worrisome. Enjoy your new ride and DEFINITELY post some pics!!!

[08fbpSI]

Originally Posted by ArtPE

"paranoid." should be "paranoid" .

too bad, it's not your call now is it?

Punctuation goes inside the quotes, Mr. English & Grammar.

[ShakeR]

screw gramma :P

congrats Ken, that is great news.
Looking forward to hear about the "conditions" though, but so far just 2 thumbs up for everyone else who supported this, and ofcourse yet another congrats to you Ken.

[BlueBliss]

Hey all,


Like many others, I went ahead and joined the forum after reading almost every single post in this thread, and on many different websites. I did my part in spreading the word via my friends' blogs, school events, etc.


To Dooma: I am so glad that you finally got the deal @ $60,000. Words can't describe how happy I am for you. You deserved that car and finally got it. Don't you just love the internet and its power? Props to all the forumers and new members who went out of their way to help Dooma, too. That was amazing.


To ArtPE: Wow, I've never seen someone so blind to the real world. Maybe you should get out into the real world sometime and take a deep breath of fresh air. The arguments and points you brought up made me want to join the forum to simply laugh at your logic. You MUST have been a dealer rep in a previous life.

To anyone who thinks the dealer made an honest mistake here and deserves sympathy, you're only making a fool outta yourself. The dealer knew EXACTLY what they were doing, and didn't want to carry through a deal that went sour for them. This happens TOO much on eBay: Seller sets the price low on purpose to attract attention and bids. When their plan fails, they're screwed and don't wanna follow through with the deal. Too bad baby...toooo bad.


I'm looking forward to posting on M3Post. I've been an avid forumer on M3forums, and M3Post should be a nice addition to my Firefox links toolbar.


Hope to chat with you all soon!


Cheers,


Chris

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

One member pointed out after some very clever sleuthing, that is be possible that the dealership was/is shill bidding against their own eBay auctions.
...

This is what I'd like to see pursued and what eBay's answer or investigation concludes.

Although this is really about Dooma and his M3, this situation, has opened up a very deep Pandora’s box.

I am with you Laszlo - I'd like to see this investigated also. Looks like some pretty incriminating evidence to me.