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05-24-2013, 10:12 PM | #67 |
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Couple things, I come from the Vette world over 5 years and I had a 700hp highly modified one when I left........so first off if you buy the coupe in the Vette world you are buying the bottom of the barrel model and the Z06 guys and the ZR1 guys look down on you. Over time you will wonder why you bought a base model. Then you will do two things, waste tons of money modifying it, or sell it and buy a Z06 or ZR1. The M3 I consider the top of the line in our world....so your moving from the top to the bottom....
Next, the pricing on the 2013 GT500 Mustang w/662 Hp was supposed to be 58k to 62K ...good luck with that...couldnt find one for that price anywhere. The dealers all priced em up ....up ... and away! Approximately 80k even if you ordered them.....total B.S. Unsure if this will happen regarding the Vettes ...but if you make the mistake and pay a high premium and in a couple years the Z06 comes out and you paid only 7k less ....you will be kicking yourself..... By the way the manual in the Vette is the way to go...as far as I know they have not upgraded their technology to a DCT. If so than its just a suck ass grandpa automatic...not a DCT. Big difference IMOP between a DCT and automatic your wife can drive....lol... If this is the case buying an automatic, base model....you will probably regret it. First two things people in the Vette world will ask you: Is it a Z06? Is it a manual? If you answer no to both then your car is bottom of the barrel ....low man....picked last... Last edited by Cool Steel; 05-24-2013 at 10:24 PM.. |
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05-24-2013, 10:30 PM | #68 |
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Vette veteran here....^^^^Wrong...like they said....granpas and women buy the autos and you are crapped on in the Vette circles constantly for making the poor decision to buy the auto...
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05-24-2013, 10:39 PM | #69 | |
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New Vette will have 450 HP....thats only 20 more than when they bumped it up in 2008 to 430 HP w/ the dual stage butterfly exhaust (a low priced exhaust upgrade) most were driving around w/ 436 hp.......the weight will be the same. So dont expect a significant performance upgrade over the old base model w/only 16hp more.....An older Z06 however, loaded can be bought low miles, for less and get you 505 HP...and all the suspension, and drive train upgrades etc....and not have that gastly comaro looking ass. Last edited by Cool Steel; 05-24-2013 at 10:45 PM.. |
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05-24-2013, 11:02 PM | #70 |
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Maybe the people you know have manuals and "real enthusiasts" have manuals....but can't argue with the numbers.
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05-25-2013, 12:52 PM | #71 |
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Agreed, there are allot of grandpas and women who buy this car and if your in that group have at it....but if your a performance centered individual ..get the manual.
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06-20-2013, 09:30 AM | #72 | |
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Here is the press release on GM testing for the car... VIR times for the BASE C7 are comparable to the C6 Z06. Not bad for a car that starts at $52K!!
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I was beside a C6 vette one morning and I it was a bit damp. I stood on the gas, trac light came on solid, he hit the gas and went sideways all over the place then put it in the ditch.... that just can't happen in my next car, doesn't happen in mine now. Has to be safe.
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06-20-2013, 03:51 PM | #75 |
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I may get one of these.
Dunno how I feel...it's still a GM, inquired at a dealership, the guys were asshats. I'd definitely stay away from there. And if they try marking it up like the people at the Ford dealership who wanted 50k for a used GT500, fuck no. EDIT: possibilities are either finding last allocation for E92, getting E92 off the lot, finding used E90/2, getting new C7, or splurging on a new F80 M3. |
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06-20-2013, 05:32 PM | #76 | |
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He obviously didn't have his traction control on as its been in Corvettes since the early 90's. Works just like BMWs. Now snow is a different story... |
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06-20-2013, 05:35 PM | #77 |
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Here is where the C7 standard car fits in lap times at VIR. I can only imagine what the Z06 version of the C7 will do. Like the Corvette or not, it is very hard to argue with its value.
1. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 2:45.63 '08 647 / 1530 Jim Mero 2. Mosler MT900S 2:45.90 '11 558 / 1174 Car&Driver 3. Dodge Viper SRT-10 ACR 2:48.60 '08 600 / 1536 4. Mosler MT900S Photon 2:49.80 '12 558 / 1135 Car&Driver 5. Ferrari 458 Italia 2:49.90 '09 570 / 1485 C&D 2014 C7 Corvette Z51 2:51.78 $57,000 as tested!!! 6. Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera 2:51.80 '10 570 / 1430 7. KTM X-Bow 2:52.30 '08 241 / 871 8. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 2:52.38 '12 588 / 1838 Aaron Link 9. Nissan GT-R 2:53.20 '11 530 / 1736 10. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Z07 Package 2:53.50 '11 512 / 1394 11. Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 2:53.90 '09 670 / 1664 Mark Gillies 12. Ferrari 430 Scuderia 2:54.60 '07 510 / 1402 13. Lexus LFA 2:55.10 '10 560 / 1609 C&D 14. Nissan GT-R 2:55.60 '08 480 / 1740 15. Porsche 911 GT3 RS 2:55.90 '10 450 / 1400 16. Dodge Viper SRT-10 2:57.40 '08 612 / 1567 17. Porsche 911 Turbo S 2:57.50 '10 530 / 1585 18. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 2:57.50 '12 588 / 1838 C&D 19. Ariel Atom 3 2:57.60 '08 300 / 456 Mark Gillies 20. Mercedes SLS AMG 2:58.00 '10 571 / 1620 21. Mercedes C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series 2:58.00 '11 517 / 1748 C&D 22. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 2:58.20 '05 513 / 1437 23. Chevrolet Camaro 1LE 2:58.34 '12 432 / 0 Chevrolet Test Driver 24. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 2:58.48 '10 558 / 1712 Ford SVT 25. Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport C6 2:58.80 '10 436 / 1542 26. Porsche 911 Carrera S 2:58.90 '11 400 / 1415 C&D 27. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 2:59.50 '09 525 / 1620 Dave Vanderwerp 28. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 3:00.60 '13 659 / 1750 C&D 29. Ford GT 3:00.70 '04 550 / 1538 30. Porsche Panamera Turbo S 3:00.70 '11 550 / 1995 31. Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z51 3:01.20 '08 442 / 1459 32. Chevrolet Camaro 1LE 3:01.50 '12 432 / 0 C&D 33. Dodge Viper SRT-10 3:01.60 '05 506 / 1600 34. Porsche 911 GT3 3:01.80 '06 415 / 1395 35. Jaguar XKR-S 3:02.10 '11 551 / 1843 C&D 36. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 3:02.80 '12 443 / 1652 37. Chevrolet Corvette C6 3:03.60 '04 405 / 1470 38. Porsche Boxster Spyder 3:03.80 '10 320 / 1275 39. Porsche Cayman R 3:03.90 '10 330 / 1320 40. Cadillac CTS-V 3:04.00 '09 564 / 1980 41. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 3:04.00 '10 558 / 1712 42. Cadillac CTS-V Coupe 3:04.20 '11 564 / 1907 43. Porsche Boxster S (981) 3:04.20 '12 315 / 1320 C&D 44. Audi RS5 3:04.30 '12 450 / 1686 C&D 45. Lotus Exige S 3:04.50 '05 222 / 933 46. Mercedes CLS 63 AMG Perfromance Package 3:04.60 '11 557 / 1919 47. Audi R8 4.2 FSI quattro 3:04.60 '06 420 / 1560 48. BMW M6 3:04.70 '12 560 / 1896 C&D 49. Audi TT RS 3:04.80 '12 360 / 1425 Car and Driver 50. Audi TT RS Coupe 3:04.80 '09 340 / 1435 51. Lotus Exige Cup 260 3:05.00 '08 260 / 890 52. BMW M5 3:05.20 '11 560 / 1870 C&D 53. Lotus Evora S 3:05.30 '11 351 / 1437 54. BMW M3 3:05.40 '07 420 / 1580 55. Lexus IS F 3:05.40 '07 423 / 1732
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06-20-2013, 05:57 PM | #78 | |
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How about not street racing from a dig when it's wet with traction off? Of all the reasons I've heard not to get a vette, that's the worst. |
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06-20-2013, 05:59 PM | #79 | |
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06-20-2013, 06:34 PM | #80 |
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I thought about the C7 as my next car but have finally decided my ultimate dream is a 991 GT3 and that's what I'm going to save up for and get in a few years.
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06-20-2013, 06:42 PM | #81 |
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Well, as much as I love the C7, the new GT3 is simply stellar and really in a different league than most other cars
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if you do we cant be friends anymore i will be too jealous.
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Yea at 2.5 times the price, different league is an understatement.
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06-22-2013, 06:27 AM | #88 |
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I think that is the same for any car with a lot of torque... you either need the nannies on or really know what you are doing. Look at a GT2 RS... try to play with that car without nannies
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