How Rare? E90 M3 ZCP W/slick top

PetrolFumes · 01-18-2018, 09:14 PM

Can anyone chime in with some real stats on how rare these actually are? Specifically an E90 with ZCP and a slick top.

Helmsman · 01-19-2018, 03:01 AM

1501 E90 ZCP built on total - see link. Not sure where to find option/volume info.

www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=50

loveskiing · 01-19-2018, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Helmsman

1501 E90 ZCP built on total - see link. Not sure where to find option/volume info.

www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=50

Wow so that means my car is REALLY Rare...it must be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the average Civic m3...

CSBM5 · 01-19-2018, 07:21 AM

According to the sticky production data pdf, there were 1220 total ZCP E90s (all 2011 of course). Total E90 2011 imported was 2170. Approximately 27% of LCI E90 production are slicktops, so without SickFinga chiming in with the exact production breakdown, we can guesstimate that about 585 2011 E90s are slicktops. Some subset of that value have ZCP also.

I have a slicktop 2011 E90 M3 6MT non-ZCP, and SickFinga confirmed that there were 237 2011 E90 slicktop 6MTs imported, some a subset of those have ZCP perhaps a bit more than 1/2 of them.

There may be a bit more slicktops in 2011 model year than LCI overall, as the estimate on overall LCI numbers pointed toward something like 180 6MT 2011 E90 slicktops, but SickFinga confirmed that number to actually be 239.

That thread in maxbimmer forum I linked above might actually have the data buried within it someplace.

Regards,
Chuck

PetrolFumes · 01-19-2018, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CSBM5

According to the sticky production data pdf, there were 1220 total ZCP E90s (all 2011 of course). Total E90 2011 imported was 2170. Approximately 27% of LCI E90 production are slicktops, so without SickFinga chiming in with the exact production breakdown, we can guesstimate that about 585 2011 E90s are slicktops. Some subset of that value have ZCP also.

I have a slicktop 2011 E90 M3 6MT non-ZCP, and SickFinga confirmed that there were 237 2011 E90 slicktop 6MTs imported, some a subset of those have ZCP perhaps a bit more than 1/2 of them.

There may be a bit more slicktops in 2011 model year than LCI overall, as the estimate on overall LCI numbers pointed toward something like 180 6MT 2011 E90 slicktops, but SickFinga confirmed that number to actually be 239.

That thread in maxbimmer forum I linked above might actually have the data buried within it someplace.

Regards,
Chuck

awesome..thanks for this. aren't all 2011 E90 M3's LCI?

dmk08 · 01-19-2018, 07:28 AM

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awesome..thanks for this. aren't all 2011 E90 M3's LCI?

Yes they are.

For me on an E90 since Im not getting the CFRP may as well have a sunroof. Fits a sedan well.

PetrolFumes · 01-19-2018, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolFumes

awesome..thanks for this. aren't all 2011 E90 M3's LCI?

Yes they are.

For me on an E90 since Im not getting the CFRP may as well have a sunroof. Fits a sedan well.

I'm finding that people actually seem to prefer the slick top over sunroof overall. Maybe it's the look and rarity

CSBM5 · 01-19-2018, 07:36 AM

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I'm finding that people actually seem to prefer the slick top over sunroof overall. Maybe it's the look and rarity

I had to have a slicktop for helmet clearance. The sunroof takes up a ton of headroom not to mention adding ~45lbs of weight at the highest point in the car. I would have given anything for my E39 M5 to have been available here in the US with a slicktop (like everywhere else in the world) as even without a helmet in that car, headroom is tight -- with a helmet I have to create a crazy seat position just to fit inside. Although I no longer use that car for track/autox for many years now. It's about as bad in the E90...I've had an E90 330i ZSP since new, and it's a super tight squeeze with a helmet to get inside (uncomfortable). I love the slicktop E90 M3.

dmk08 · 01-19-2018, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolFumes

awesome..thanks for this. aren't all 2011 E90 M3's LCI?

Yes they are.

For me on an E90 since Im not getting the CFRP may as well have a sunroof. Fits a sedan well.

I'm finding that people actually seem to prefer the slick top over sunroof overall. Maybe it's the look and rarity

Yeah I know they do I was just saying for me personally. Now on the F80 a sunroof car will be rare.

CSBM5 · 01-19-2018, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PetrolFumes

awesome..thanks for this. aren't all 2011 E90 M3's LCI?

Yes there are, but the percentage non-sunroof data is quoted in terms of either pre-LCI or LCI cars in that stick pdf file; hence the reason I was referring to LCI at all.

Helmsman · 01-19-2018, 08:11 AM

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Wow so that means my car is REALLY Rare...it must be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the average Civic m3...

Correctomundo my friend. You hang on to that car and cash it in when you come closer to retirement...

derbo · 01-19-2018, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CSBM5

According to the sticky production data pdf, there were 1220 total ZCP E90s (all 2011 of course). Total E90 2011 imported was 2170. Approximately 27% of LCI E90 production are slicktops, so without SickFinga chiming in with the exact production breakdown, we can guesstimate that about 585 2011 E90s are slicktops. Some subset of that value have ZCP also.

I have a slicktop 2011 E90 M3 6MT non-ZCP, and SickFinga confirmed that there were 237 2011 E90 slicktop 6MTs imported, some a subset of those have ZCP perhaps a bit more than 1/2 of them.

There may be a bit more slicktops in 2011 model year than LCI overall, as the estimate on overall LCI numbers pointed toward something like 180 6MT 2011 E90 slicktops, but SickFinga confirmed that number to actually be 239.

That thread in maxbimmer forum I linked above might actually have the data buried within it someplace.

Regards,
Chuck

I myself also an owner of a non-ZCP 2011 slicktop 6MT!

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=863761

There is about 952 LCI Slicktops (DCT/6MT combined). A total of 1220 ZCP (with or without sunroofs) E90s so you can imagine that pool is very small. I believe there is also 355 ZCP 6MT E90 in the US.

spazzyfry123 · 01-19-2018, 11:15 AM

They're tough to find! Took me a while to find my slicktop 6MT E90 with cloth seats and all. Super fun cars!

GT3fan · 01-19-2018, 11:47 AM

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They're tough to find! Took me a while to find my slicktop 6MT E90 with cloth seats and all. Super fun cars!

Nice find! Do you have idrive delete too?

I wish mine was slicktop and Idriveless.

EnVe46 · 01-19-2018, 12:27 PM

I had a slicktop E46 IB Comp 6spd, hell of a car and resale was definitely there. But, with my E90, I love having a sunroof. I wouldn't pay a premium to not have it for this chassis, E46 I would

OH IT'S KINO · 01-19-2018, 12:49 PM

Ignorant new guy here.

Slicktop = no sunroof? Is that all?

CSBM5 · 01-19-2018, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OH IT'S KINO

Ignorant new guy here.

Slicktop = no sunroof? Is that all?

Yes.

GT3fan · 01-19-2018, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EnVe46

I had a slicktop E46 IB Comp 6spd, hell of a car and resale was definitely there. But, with my E90, I love having a sunroof. I wouldn't pay a premium to not have it for this chassis, E46 I would

Personally, I would pay a premium for a slicktop on appearance alone. That piece of tinted glass looks ugly on light color cars including mine. The benefit of less weight on the roof would be icing.

EnVe46 · 01-19-2018, 01:35 PM

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Personally, I would pay a premium for a slicktop on appearance alone. That piece of tinted glass looks ugly on light color cars including mine. The benefit of less weight on the roof would be icing.

Guess Id have to see in person. One lighter, I could see what you're saying and even on my car, sure slicktop might have more appeal to the eye. But, the benefits for me, at least as a daily driver and trip car, its nice having

derbo · 01-19-2018, 01:50 PM

It's only nice for the fellas over 6" tall for headroom. I thought I was going to miss the sunroof, I don't mind it one bit.

jordantastic · 01-19-2018, 02:02 PM

This is interesting. 2011 E90 ZCP 6MT in interlagos blue here. I wish to preserve this thing but its so damn fun to drive!

PetrolFumes · 01-19-2018, 02:06 PM

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This is interesting. 2011 E90 ZCP 6MT in interlagos blue here. I wish to preserve this thing but its so damn fun to drive!

the color alone is rare. you have a good one

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Helmsman Major General 4465 Rep 7,109 Posts Drives: 2011 AW E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Stockholm, Sweden iTrader: (0)	1501 E90 ZCP built on total - see link. Not sure where to find option/volume info. www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=50
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CSBM5 Brigadier General 2721 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: 2019 M2 Comp, 2011 M3, etc Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (2)	According to the sticky production data pdf, there were 1220 total ZCP E90s (all 2011 of course). Total E90 2011 imported was 2170. Approximately 27% of LCI E90 production are slicktops, so without SickFinga chiming in with the exact production breakdown, we can guesstimate that about 585 2011 E90s are slicktops. Some subset of that value have ZCP also. I have a slicktop 2011 E90 M3 6MT non-ZCP, and SickFinga confirmed that there were 237 2011 E90 slicktop 6MTs imported, some a subset of those have ZCP perhaps a bit more than 1/2 of them. There may be a bit more slicktops in 2011 model year than LCI overall, as the estimate on overall LCI numbers pointed toward something like 180 6MT 2011 E90 slicktops, but SickFinga confirmed that number to actually be 239. That thread in maxbimmer forum I linked above might actually have the data buried within it someplace. Regards, Chuck __________________ Current Stable: 2024 G20 M340i Melbourne Red/Cognac 2019 F87 M2 Competition 6MT, LBB, slicktop, exec pkg 2007 E91 328i Silver, slushbox, Eibach fr/E93 M3 rear sway bars, ARC-8
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