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      09-14-2021, 11:58 PM   #23
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Seen this issue with AG359 in this same color multiple times...
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      11-24-2021, 03:37 AM   #24
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Is there anyone who can chime in with Avant Garde M359's where their paint is NOT chipping?

Or do they all chip and flake??
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      11-24-2021, 08:02 AM   #25
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Is there anyone who can chime in with Avant Garde M359's where their paint is NOT chipping?

Or do they all chip and flake??
Plenty of people have had good fortune with them but yah, there's enough complaints here that I'll pass on them
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      11-25-2021, 12:35 PM   #26
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Is there anyone who can chime in with Avant Garde M359's where their paint is NOT chipping?

Or do they all chip and flake??
You just gotta be extra careful with them. I don't have any chipping anywhere else on the wheel. Just the area where the shop went ham with the impact gun.
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      11-26-2021, 02:53 AM   #27
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Wow… I guess they did not know that an impact gun shouldn't be used on this car, lug nuts can easily be over tightened.

Hopefully you're not running any spacers.
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      11-28-2021, 03:43 PM   #28
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I had a set before, the finish from AG is pretty crap and gets torn up very easily.

There is a reason the OEM version are more highly desired and values back that up also.
Yeah, the wheels in Europe when made go through a completely different paint process which is really durable. The primer is one of the strongest bonding and hardest layers in the painting process for OE wheels. Hence why even OE wheels that have been curbed rashed don't flake like this.

For those of you that work in the wheel refinishing business will know, many OEM wheels from Europe take forever in the stripping tank to fully strip it down to the bare wheel. Japanese/Asian wheels are much easier and require a lot less time.

AG wheels are made in Asia and I assumed they were hand-painted in an assembly line with subpar paint/chemicals, not surprised.
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      12-01-2021, 03:51 AM   #29
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I've been wanting a set of the new AG M359's, given that they are flow formed and lighter than OEM M359's, but now I'm having second thoughts.

Is AG really doing nothing about this?
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      12-01-2021, 05:20 AM   #30
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What a story. Thanks, never AG for me.
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      12-11-2021, 08:32 AM   #31
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looks like the tire shop damaged it but because the paint on the wheels is fragile it flaked easily. so both parties at fault. sucks because I was thinking of getting AG wheels
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      12-11-2021, 11:08 PM   #32
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I was thinking of getting AG too… I guess no more, especially since absolutely no word from AG on the matter.
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      12-12-2021, 01:43 PM   #33
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I did reach out to AG and they blamed the tire shop on it. It's not completely either one's fault, but I agree more with AG. Going nuts with the impact gun would have damaged oem wheels too. Just not to this extent.
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      12-12-2021, 04:47 PM   #34
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Impact gun should never be used on an M3. Period. Lug huts should be hand screwed, then tightened to spec with a torque wrench.

However, that type of chipping doesn't occur on any OEM wheels regardless of what type of impact they sustain.
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      12-15-2021, 09:53 PM   #35
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Impact gun should never be used on an M3. Period. Lug huts should be hand screwed, then tightened to spec with a torque wrench.

However, that type of chipping doesn't occur on any OEM wheels regardless of what type of impact they sustain.
Eh.. I've always used an impact gun with a protected socket to unscrew wheels off my car. Never have my wheels ever had flaking paint on the lug holes.
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      12-15-2021, 10:43 PM   #36
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Ah yes, I was mostly referring to using an impact gun to (over)tighten lugs.

Indeed I too usually use an impact gun to remove lug nuts, and too have never had any chipping issues with OEM wheels.
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Ah yes, I was mostly referring to using an impact gun to (over)tighten lugs.

Indeed I too usually use an impact gun to remove lug nuts, and too have never had any chipping issues with OEM wheels.
oh yeah to tighten, never, even with those "torque sticks" people claim that work. I can never trust those. The spread with an impact gun or electric torque is never accurate.

Hand torque everything always.
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      12-17-2021, 04:33 PM   #38
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Update: Shop will pay for a replacement set thanks to our judicial system
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      12-27-2021, 09:15 PM   #39
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Update: Shop will pay for a replacement set thanks to our judicial system
Judicial system??

Did you have to suit in Small Claims??
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      12-28-2021, 12:12 PM   #40
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Update: Shop will pay for a replacement set thanks to our judicial system
But now u have another set of shitty painted wheels 😂
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      12-28-2021, 12:24 PM   #41
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ugh what a hassle for a $250 wheel
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      12-28-2021, 12:59 PM   #42
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Yeah took them small claims. It wasn't a hassle. The set is like $1500 shipped with tax.
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      12-28-2021, 06:03 PM   #43
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You should have had them pay for a powdercoat
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      12-29-2021, 01:11 AM   #44
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Btw have you seen this thread?

… apparently there is a warranty honored by AG for this.

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1088516
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