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      09-03-2019, 04:33 PM   #45
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An aftermarket touch-screen stereo & cheap Garmin gps is all the tech that I need. I have my music on 2 64g flash sticks & the wheel buttons work as normal.
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it doesnt mean that car is better or worse.. stereo system is.. lets keep it rational..
and there is saying for a long time.. Germans sell, engine and chassis the rest sells by their options/equipments in their cars..
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Wow never thought that car play is very important to some people. What's important to me when I'm in my daily driver car is my music streaming thru regular bluetooth and navigation (only when I have to go somewhere that I dont know, but even then, I can just use google maps and it will be connected via my car's bluetooth thru speakers of the car).
What else do you really need when driving? Maybe I just can't relate because I have android.
It's nice to have, but it is not the single factor that determines the worth of the car. I don't need it, but I'll use it once and awhile since it's there.
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I noticed this Article is sponsored by Hyundai Kona.
Having said that, I own both a BMW F36 with Wireless Carplay and Hyundai Ioniq with Carplay.

"+" Hyundai
1. Carplay is standard on every late model
2. No subscription requires

"-" of Hyundai
1. Has to be plugged in to use
2. Takes over the entire center screen and does not allow for anything else to be displayed (such as radio and other vehicle settings)

"+" of BMW
1. Wireless - fits the theme of Bluetooth, wireless phone, proximity key. Once set up you never have to take your phone out of your pocket/purse/jacket.
2. Allows split screen - Carplay is just a small function of your iDrive. I don't know if it's possible to program Carplay as one of the function button. (1-8)

"-" of BMW
1. You will eventually need a USB port to charge your phone as you use Carplay. This function can drain an iPhone battery rapidly
2. $80 a year subscription or $300 for 20 years. Come on BMW! Seriously?
What happens if I trade in my BMW like I usually do after 6 months to a year?
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Drivers that carp about needing Apple Carplay in a car are probably better off staying in an Uber or taxi.
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Modern tech I desire in a car:
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why do you just not buy modern car...
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why do you just not buy modern car...
Note how I've retrofitted carplay to both my e46s and my e39, sold my e9X, and the only new BMW I have left suffers from almost none of the tech I listed (damn you EPS).

... though I do intend to get a C8, with carplay (comes as standard), despite the autotragic trans.
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Modern car tech I actively avoid:
Turbos
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fwd
automatic transmissions of any form
direct injection
any form of auto pilot/auto brake/lane keep assist
crossover body shape
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Modern tech I desire in a car:
CarPlay
Uh-huh.
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... though I do intend to get a C8, with carplay (comes as standard), despite the autotragic trans.
Brake by wire.
Direct injection.
Cylinder deactivation.
Electronic Power Steering.
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An aftermarket touch-screen stereo & cheap Garmin gps is all the tech that I need. I have my music on 2 64g flash sticks & the wheel buttons work as normal.
64gb? Is that a flash stick... for ANTS?!

256gb thumb drive fits my movies so the passengers can watch videos in motion. All my music fits on my 256gb iPhone but I honestly just stream from Spotify now.
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I noticed this Article is sponsored by Hyundai Kona.
Having said that, I own both a BMW F36 with Wireless Carplay and Hyundai Ioniq with Carplay.

"+" Hyundai
1. Carplay is standard on every late model
2. No subscription requires

"-" of Hyundai
1. Has to be plugged in to use
2. Takes over the entire center screen and does not allow for anything else to be displayed (such as radio and other vehicle settings)

"+" of BMW
1. Wireless - fits the theme of Bluetooth, wireless phone, proximity key. Once set up you never have to take your phone out of your pocket/purse/jacket.
2. Allows split screen - Carplay is just a small function of your iDrive. I don't know if it's possible to program Carplay as one of the function button. (1-8)

"-" of BMW
1. You will eventually need a USB port to charge your phone as you use Carplay. This function can drain an iPhone battery rapidly
2. $80 a year subscription or $300 for 20 years. Come on BMW! Seriously?
What happens if I trade in my BMW like I usually do after 6 months to a year?
You cannot program a memory button to CarPlay and it's infuriating. I also dislike how pressing the nav button on iDrive opens the Apple Maps app on CarPlay even though I'm using Waze.
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64gb? Is that a flash stick... for ANTS?!

256gb thumb drive fits my movies so the passengers can watch videos in motion. All my music fits on my 256gb iPhone but I honestly just stream from Spotify now.
I'm old fashioned, not a big tech guy. Hell, I still buy cd's. My stereo has Android Auto but I have no interest in it. 128g holds all I need, not everything that I have, just my driving music.
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An aftermarket touch-screen stereo & cheap Garmin gps is all the tech that I need. I have my music on 2 64g flash sticks & the wheel buttons work as normal.
64gb? Is that a flash stick... for ANTS?!

256gb thumb drive fits my movies so the passengers can watch videos in motion. All my music fits on my 256gb iPhone but I honestly just stream from Spotify now.
How is the sound quality on "paid" Spotify? The unpaid version is pretty blah, once my SiriusXM expire maybe I'll just pay Spotify if it's good quality
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An aftermarket touch-screen stereo & cheap Garmin gps is all the tech that I need. I have my music on 2 64g flash sticks & the wheel buttons work as normal.
64gb? Is that a flash stick... for ANTS?!

256gb thumb drive fits my movies so the passengers can watch videos in motion. All my music fits on my 256gb iPhone but I honestly just stream from Spotify now.
How is the sound quality on "paid" Spotify? The unpaid version is pretty blah, once my SiriusXM expire maybe I'll just pay Spotify if it's good quality
I don't know. I have partial hearing loss so everything sounds like shit.
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You cannot program a memory button to CarPlay and it's infuriating. I also dislike how pressing the nav button on iDrive opens the Apple Maps app on CarPlay even though I'm using Waze.
Also, when I ask SIRI to navigate (in the Hyundai), it defaults to Apple map not Waze. So it's Apple's own doing and not any car company's fault.
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How is the sound quality on "paid" Spotify? The unpaid version is pretty blah, once my SiriusXM expire maybe I'll just pay Spotify if it's good quality
You can stream at 320kbps.
That's about the same bitrate as Bluetooth without APTX.
I use it even in my SQ built car. No reason to pay more for Tidal if you're using Bluetooth in my use case. Lossless is going to be compressed down anyway....
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I'm not that big on audio quality as long as it's at least as good as satellite radio it would do
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I'm not that big on audio quality as long as it's at least as good as satellite radio it would do
It's better than satellite. Audibly better. Satellite is compressed ... equivalent to something like a 64kbps stream.
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EVERYTHING is better than satellite. Satellite is terrible.
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EVERYTHING is better than satellite. Satellite is terrible.
you would have thought so but I can you tell the "non-paid" version of spotify is worse...
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