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      05-13-2019, 05:17 PM   #1
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2008 E90 M vs. 2012 E93 M...

Hello all, I have a bit of a quandary, We have owned an 2008 E90 M3, SSII, 6 speed, for a little over 3 years and have absolutely loved it, it's going on 116,000 miles and it fits our family nicely, but I know I am playing the German Lottery.

I have the chance to purchase my late fathers CPO 2012 E93 M3 Jerez and some sort of two toned tan/black interior, DTC and 37,500 miles, for a little over $10,000, it may have an 4 years left on an 84 month/100,000 Platinum extended warranty, I'm trying to see if it's still good or transferable as it hasn't been into the dealer in about a year... My kids like the idea of a convertible, but at 18 and 16, they don't really fit nicely in the back seat, but then I think, how long are they really going to be living at home it is much more compact feeling with the top up.

If we decide to purchase the E93, a friend would love to buy our E90, we don't have the room or money for both, sadly, although that would be super fun!

So, I ask you, stick with what we have and just keep maintaining it?

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      05-13-2019, 05:44 PM   #2
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ok, off the wall idea here, that might not work with your current circumstances.... but.. if you have the chance to buy the e93 for that cheap and thousands under FMV, then purely from an economic perspective, one might buy it, sell it for 8-12K more (depending on the value/market). then sell the 08 e90 to your friend... then buy a lower mileage E90 and continue with what works for you, but one that's newer and lower miles, and switch it up to a DCT e90 to get an entirely different experience.
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ok, off the wall idea here, that might not work with your current circumstances.... but.. if you have the chance to buy the e93 for that cheap and thousands under FMV, then purely from an economic perspective, one might buy it, sell it for 8-12K more (depending on the value/market). then sell the 08 e90 to your friend... then buy a lower mileage E90 and continue with what works for you, but one that's newer and lower miles, and switch it up to a DCT e90 to get an entirely different experience.
An interesting thought, and one that I don't think my mother would take too kindly too
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      05-13-2019, 06:13 PM   #4
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ok, off the wall idea here, that might not work with your current circumstances.... but.. if you have the chance to buy the e93 for that cheap and thousands under FMV, then purely from an economic perspective, one might buy it, sell it for 8-12K more (depending on the value/market). then sell the 08 e90 to your friend... then buy a lower mileage E90 and continue with what works for you, but one that's newer and lower miles, and switch it up to a DCT e90 to get an entirely different experience.
An interesting thought, and one that I don't think my mother would take too kindly too
I assumed there might be qualitative circumstances, but figured I'd throw it out there just in case!

Personally, I think the E90 is way more versatile, slightly faster and slightly better handling.. and especially more accommodating for a family... so that being said, it's hard to turn down an e93 for a cost that's roughly (without seeing it) half it's market value.. but if you can't keep both and can't sell it, its not the easiest decision..

if you don't buy it, what happens to the e93?
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Hello all, I have a bit of a quandary, We have owned an 2008 E90 M3, SSII, 6 speed, for a little over 3 years and have absolutely loved it, it's going on 116,000 miles and it fits our family nicely, but I know I am playing the German Lottery.

I have the chance to purchase my late fathers CPO 2012 E93 M3 Jerez and some sort of two toned tan/black interior, DTC and 37,500 miles, for a little over $10,000, it may have an 4 years left on an 84 month/100,000 Platinum extended warranty, I'm trying to see if it's still good or transferable as it hasn't been into the dealer in about a year... My kids like the idea of a convertible, but at 18 and 16, they don't really fit nicely in the back seat, but then I think, how long are they really going to be living at home it is much more compact feeling with the top up.

If we decide to purchase the E93, a friend would love to buy our E90, we don't have the room or money for both, sadly, although that would be super fun!

So, I ask you, stick with what we have and just keep maintaining it?

Or

Welcome to your new ride?!?
I'm not sure why everyone assumes our E9x M3s turn into a pumpkin after 100K MI. If it's been well maintained, no reason to assume it's a ticking time bomb. I would stay with the E90 over the E93 anyday.
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No brainer even if it wasn't that cheap.

I assume you don't track your M and don't care about it being a bit slower.

Get the E93 and if you just plan on cruising with the top down, having the DCT isn't that big a deal unless you are used to your E90 6MT and prefer 6MT.
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personally i would stay away from e93, stick with the e90 =(definitely less annoying rattles from the mechanical hardtop)
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I assumed there might be qualitative circumstances, but figured I'd throw it out there just in case!

Personally, I think the E90 is way more versatile, slightly faster and slightly better handling.. and especially more accommodating for a family... so that being said, it's hard to turn down an e93 for a cost that's roughly (without seeing it) half it's market value.. but if you can't keep both and can't sell it, its not the easiest decision..

if you don't buy it, what happens to the e93?
Yeah, It is tough, I work for my parents, Mother now, So that could be a sticky spot for me.

If I don't buy it, She is going to sell it for a decent price, That's another reason we are trying to figure out the warranty.

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I'm not sure why everyone assumes our E9x M3s turn into a pumpkin after 100K MI. If it's been well maintained, no reason to assume it's a ticking time bomb. I would stay with the E90 over the E93 anyday.
I agree, Ive been maintaining it as per the service schedule, Other than the oil changes, We certainly like our E90.

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No brainer even if it wasn't that cheap.

I assume you don't track your M and don't care about it being a bit slower.

Get the E93 and if you just plan on cruising with the top down, having the DCT isn't that big a deal unless you are used to your E90 6MT and prefer 6MT.
Nope, No track, Commuter/weekend drives only, We were able to take the E93 out for a local BMW drive, Along with my friend in our E90, We all had a great time! DTC was nice, It didn't bother me.

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personally i would stay away from e93, stick with the e90 =(definitely less annoying rattles from the mechanical hardtop)
This is one of the few sticking points for me, The rattle from the hard top and the back seats for the kids.
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I assumed there might be qualitative circumstances, but figured I'd throw it out there just in case!

Personally, I think the E90 is way more versatile, slightly faster and slightly better handling.. and especially more accommodating for a family... so that being said, it's hard to turn down an e93 for a cost that's roughly (without seeing it) half it's market value.. but if you can't keep both and can't sell it, its not the easiest decision..

if you don't buy it, what happens to the e93?
Yeah, It is tough, I work for my parents, Mother now, So that could be a sticky spot for me.

If I don't buy it, She is going to sell it for a decent price, That's another reason we are trying to figure out the warranty.

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I'm not sure why everyone assumes our E9x M3s turn into a pumpkin after 100K MI. If it's been well maintained, no reason to assume it's a ticking time bomb. I would stay with the E90 over the E93 anyday.
I agree, Ive been maintaining it as per the service schedule, Other than the oil changes, We certainly like our E90.

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No brainer even if it wasn't that cheap.

I assume you don't track your M and don't care about it being a bit slower.

Get the E93 and if you just plan on cruising with the top down, having the DCT isn't that big a deal unless you are used to your E90 6MT and prefer 6MT.
Nope, No track, Commuter/weekend drives only, We were able to take the E93 out for a local BMW drive, Along with my friend in our E90, We all had a great time! DTC was nice, It didn't bother me.

[mapster37=QUOTE]personally i would stay away from e93, stick with the e90 =(definitely less annoying rattles from the mechanical hardtop)
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If she's going to sell it if you don't take it, perhaps one option is to assist her by posting it on here (and online) and help her get the most out of it. The warranty, low mileage, year, etc will be a major selling point, and posting it here will provide probably the best price opportunity since most places/people don't respect a warranty and it's value for this car outside of enthusiasts.. since the driving/experience Value of going from an E90 to a vert is small to negative, then better to maximize the value for the car on the market.. and higher mileage that you currently have is certainly fine for a well maintained weekend warrior!
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If she's going to sell it if you don't take it, perhaps the best option is to assist her by posting it on here (and online) and help her get the most out of it. The warranty, low mileage, year, etc will be a major selling point, and posting it here will provide probably the best price opportunity since most places/people don't respect a warranty and it's value for this car outside of enthusiasts.. since the driving/experience Value of going from an E90 to a vert is small to negative, then better to maximize the value for the car on the market.. and higher mileage that you currently have is certainly fine for a well maintained weekend warrior!
This is a great point, I know I would enjoy the hell out of it, But, In the end, Its really not much different than what we have, I've asked locally in our BMW group and there has been some interest, Even without mentioning a dollar amount, Not that we would price ourselves out of the market.

I may just have some car A.D.D.

I'm trying to get some pictures loaded, But the mobile site is less than helpful... I do appreciate everyone's thoughts, I thank you for taking the time to reply!
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personally i would stay away from e93, stick with the e90 =(definitely less annoying rattles from the mechanical hardtop)
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This is one of the few sticking points for me, The rattle from the hard top and the back seats for the kids.
Where do non-E93 owners get this idea that all of the hardtops rattle? Mine is 11 years old with 85k miles and doesn't rattle at all.

If it's rattling, there's something wrong that can be fixed.
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Keep the e90. Its a better performer, more practical and better looking.

Maybe sell the e93 and make a little profit and take the family on a vacation?
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Keep the e90. Its a better performer, more practical and better looking.
Nope.... not with 4 doors, might as well buy an X3.

And my hardtop doesn't rattle either, especially when it's nearly always in the trunk :-)
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I'd keep the E90 and here is my 2 cents. I have 179,XXX miles and I've only had (2) failures.....
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So they don't just explode at some point. Maintenance and how you treat the car is all that matters for longevity imo. If you feel sketchy then replace your RB's for piece of mind and just enjoy your car. Mine is an E92 so I'd like to pick up an E90 at some point and age/mileage don't bother me. The owner is more a point of concern for me when buying. How did this dude or chick treat this thing? What impression are they giving me besides maintenance records? Keep your e90.
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Keep the e90. I would even double down and replace the RBs. The car still holds its own even against many new cars.
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I don't understand the 'don't have the money or room for both'.

You find the money and you make the room.
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is $10k what is owed on the e93?
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Keep the e90. Its a better performer, more practical and better looking.

Maybe sell the e93 and make a little profit and take the family on a vacation?
It ain't better looking at all 😆
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Keep the e90. Its a better performer, more practical and better looking.

Maybe sell the e93 and make a little profit and take the family on a vacation?
Be honest, you've been drinking the e90 koolaid if you think it's a better looking car.. in terms of looks out of the 3, the e90 is a solid 3rd

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Where do non-E93 owners get this idea that all of the hardtops rattle? Mine is 11 years old with 85k miles and doesn't rattle at all.

If it's rattling, there's something wrong that can be fixed.
A - frickin' - Men. I get more rattles out of the sunroof in my wife's F10 535 than I do the hardtop in my 2013 E93.
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Be honest, you've been drinking the e90 koolaid if you think it's a better looking car.. in terms of looks out of the 3, the e90 is a solid 3rd

Not triggered 🤣

Sober here.

The e93 roof lines and creases spoil the look in my opinion.
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Be honest, you've been drinking the e90 koolaid if you think it's a better looking car.. in terms of looks out of the 3, the e90 is a solid 3rd

Not triggered 🤣

Sober here.

Actually, the e93 roof lines and creases ruins the look in my opinion.
Nah, that's the standard response about the roof... In the flesh the e90 is starting to look like a tired run of the mill sedan.
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