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      10-11-2022, 09:46 AM   #243
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i don't equate wins with pace. a win is a win which is etched in the record books and nobody remembers the losers' circumstances, justified or not. poor Mercedes.
Haven't you brought up Abu Dhabi before?
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      10-11-2022, 09:47 AM   #244
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Is Merc's lack of straight line speed a result of engine or draggy aero?
Combination of everything. The car is just fundamentally not good and it's primarily aero.
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      10-11-2022, 10:32 AM   #245
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I would say more crappy aero than engine. It was painful to see HAM try to pass OCO just to see the Alpine accelerate ahead. HAM made good attempts at passing Ocon but the W13 just couldn't pull ahead when side-by-side.
And ...

The new 2022 fuel came into play !

For 2022, F1 moved to the new 'E10' fuel .This referring to the ethanol content of the fuel. Last year, the ethanol content was 5.75 %.
This year, they must run with 10 % ethanol according to the FIA fuel regulations !
This means less of HP ..

But Ferrari managed somehow to increase the HP with their Ferrari 2022 'Superfast PU .
=> https://www.grandprix247.com/2022/01...of-innovation/
I thought most, or at least the top 3 figured out the fuel by the start of the season? If not, this could also be a contributing factor.
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      10-11-2022, 11:17 AM   #246
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Is Merc's lack of straight line speed a result of engine or draggy aero?
I wonder if they know themselves.
I think 2 races ago they were speculating that they even might win a race this year. I don't hear them saying that now...

After every race Mercedes says something new. Either it's going really well and saying that they have every problem under control, or saying it's going really bad and they don't quite know why.
These are both literally statements of Toto within 1 month or so.

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Is Merc's lack of straight line speed a result of engine or draggy aero?
was watching comparison on YT.

acceleration the same. top speed and corner speed lower by 5-7kph.
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Combination of everything. The car is just fundamentally not good and it's primarily aero.
It will be very interesting if they show up to testing next year with no side pod design.

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It will be very interesting if they show up to testing next year with not side pod design.
I can't really say with 100% confidence but I've been saying this since pre-season testing. They need to scrap their "loop hole" sidepod to get back in the mix. They're going to be 1 year behind Ferrari and Red Bull who just had an entire season of testing for 2023.

Ferrari should be very strong next year.
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I can't really say with 100% confidence but I've been saying this since pre-season testing. They need to scrap their "loop hole" sidepod to get back in the mix. They're going to be 1 year behind Ferrari and Red Bull who just had an entire season of testing for 2023.

Ferrari should be very strong next year.
Yeah . Wolff said behind the curtains that the 2023 Mercedes , for 95% will look like the 2022 Red Bull RB18 ..

In other words : A copy&paste !

Can't wait to see that bouncing '23 Merc ..
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Doesn't look like any of the remaining tracks suit Ferrari very well

Hoping Ferrari can sort out tire wear for '23
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Karma for that was added at the end of Abu dabi.
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You are stopping me in my tracks again my friend. Jaw dropping beauty. Max is one lucky man. Gorgeous gal.
Yeah .That's for sure my friend . At and off track !
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