$2,500 below M.S.R.P. good?

Seth_Horwitz · 05-12-2008, 10:35 PM

My friend's dealer offered me a new-order M3 Coupe DCT with delivery in August-September, for $2,500 below M.S.R.P. I asked about MACO, inventory, training and all of the other B.S. fees that can be used to pad M.S.R.P., and she told me "build it on the BMWUSA web site, and knock off $2,500." Basically that means that the only fee is the $775 (if I remember) destination charge. Obviously gas-guzzler goes on top of that, but if that's the only add on besides taxes and tags, that's a pretty good deal, right? I want to make sure that I didn't miss anything. Thanks.
-Seth

EVO_S4 · 05-12-2008, 10:37 PM

sound better than here, my dealer keep telling me how hot this car is and wont budge on the price

AZ-BMW · 05-12-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth_Horwitz

My friend's dealer offered me a new-order M3 Coupe DCT with delivery in August-September, for $2,500 below M.S.R.P. I asked about MACO, inventory, training and all of the other B.S. fees that can be used to pad M.S.R.P., and she told me "build it on the BMWUSA web site, and knock off $2,500." Basically that means that the only fee is the $775 (if I remember) destination charge. Obviously gas-guzzler goes on top of that, but if that's the only add on besides taxes and tags, that's a pretty good deal, right? I want to make sure that I didn't miss anything. Thanks.-Seth

+ Dealer Doc Fee (usually preprinted on the sales contract so the CA can say they can't do anything about it)

dangoma · 05-12-2008, 11:11 PM

Watch our for dealer doc fees. I have read some people being screwed with that. I only paid 55 bucks. Which I think was too much but whatever, its 55 bucks.

Rick · 05-12-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dangoma

Watch our for dealer doc fees. I have read some people being screwed with that. I only paid 55 bucks. Which I think was too much but whatever, its 55 bucks.

+1

I paid 55 as well.

Seth_Horwitz · 05-12-2008, 11:24 PM

I'm assuming that $2,500 off of M.S.R.P. + $55 is still pretty good, right? Even if docs were $100, I think it looks too good to pass up. Let me know if I'm wrong. Thanks guys.

malter2.0 · 05-12-2008, 11:24 PM

I have never heard dealer fees being $2500. Even it is something outrageous like $1000, it is still $1500 off MSRP, which is a great deal, although you have to remember by end of year, '09 will be available.

Seth_Horwitz · 05-12-2008, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by malter2.0

I have never heard dealer fees being $2500. Even it is something outrageous like $1000, it is still $1500 off MSRP, which is a great deal, although you have to remember by end of year, '09 will be available.

Thanks. Beautiful car, by the way. I had a '99 E36 M3 and loved it. (I just hope you don't drive it in the snow, or have snow tires. Ask me how I know.

)

milk242 · 05-12-2008, 11:29 PM

Wow 2500 off is awesome on a DCT coupe! I have to talk to my CA about this price. BTW, do you think its ethical to renegotiate the price when the car arrives even though I already agreed to pay MSRP?

AZ-BMW · 05-12-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dangoma

Watch our for dealer doc fees. I have read some people being screwed with that. I only paid 55 bucks. Which I think was too much but whatever, its 55 bucks.

Doc Fee in AZ is ~$350

Seth_Horwitz · 05-12-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by milk242

Wow 2500 off is awesome on a DCT coupe! I have to talk to my CA about this price. BTW, do you think its ethical to renegotiate the price when the car arrives even though I already agreed to pay MSRP?

I worked at a dealer in high school, and I can tell you that few salespeople go through their ethics manuals before doing a deal with you. It can't hurt to try and negotiate, but I wouldn't expect much from them. Remember that they can probably sell your car to the next guy on the list, at M.S.R.P., with little effort. I'm willing to wait for a car, and it seems like some dealers have higher allocations than they currently have customers for. If I wanted a car they had, I'm sure I'd be paying M.S.R.P. to avoid a list. Because I'm willing to wait until after the summer, I'm sure that there's a shift in the demand curve downward.

milk242 · 05-12-2008, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth_Horwitz

I worked at a dealer in high school, and I can tell you that few salespeople go through their ethics manuals before doing a deal with you. It can't hurt to try and negotiate, but I wouldn't expect much from them. Remember that they can probably sell your car to the next guy on the list, at M.S.R.P., with little effort. I'm willing to wait for a car, and it seems like some dealers have higher allocations than they currently have customers for. If I wanted a car they had, I'm sure I'd be paying M.S.R.P. to avoid a list. Because I'm willing to wait until after the summer, I'm sure that there's a shift in the demand curve downward.

Yea I'll probably try to negotiate seeing that I'll be picking up my car at the end of August.

malter2.0 · 05-13-2008, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth_Horwitz

Thanks. Beautiful car, by the way. I had a '99 E36 M3 and loved it. (I just hope you don't drive it in the snow, or have snow tires. Ask me how I know.

)

Thanks. Have snow tires and she rides through the winter like charm

ihyln · 05-13-2008, 08:54 AM

I got about 2500 off on the E90 M3 as well.

man02195 · 05-13-2008, 09:48 AM

That's a great price, go for it now. I got about that amount off MSRP and $0 other fees, all i have is $56.50 for a temp tag (performance delivery, they have to overnight the tag to SC)

Davinhci · 05-13-2008, 02:19 PM

any discount is good man, MSRP here

AZ-BMW · 05-13-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ihyln

I got about 2500 off on the E90 M3 as well.

Yeah but Seth is getting the Cab with a $2500 off deal [unheard of]

sayemthree · 05-13-2008, 10:54 PM

sounds like a really good deal.

spike357 · 05-14-2008, 12:46 PM

Very very good deal. Take it.

TexasBMW · 05-14-2008, 01:58 PM

Just depends on your market. There are some non-metro area dealers here that will discount. I am going to guess rather heavy discounts for next year once demand tempers.

ERM-M3 · 05-14-2008, 06:43 PM

Whats up guys, new here. Ive been a lurker from day 1. Was wondering if anyone can comment on these numbers I just got for a e90 M.
List price - 66,900
Selling price - 64,200
not including gas guzzler
With just the fees up front..$2,230, monthly price he gave me is $1,156/36k-3yrs.
with taxes up front, he gave me 1045...this is with a 00258 Base Rate .

Would really appreciate it if you guys can comment on this deal..Thanks

AZ-BMW · 05-14-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasBMW

Just depends on your market. There are some non-metro area dealers here that will discount. I am going to guess rather heavy discounts for next year once demand tempers.

You can buy from any U.S. Dealer willing to discount while it is still that dealer's Allocation, then just take delivery at PCD

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Seth_Horwitz Tired of feather footed //M drivers 19 Rep 387 Posts Drives: 330ci, 911 Turbo X50 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	$2,500 below M.S.R.P. good? My friend's dealer offered me a new-order M3 Coupe DCT with delivery in August-September, for $2,500 below M.S.R.P. I asked about MACO, inventory, training and all of the other B.S. fees that can be used to pad M.S.R.P., and she told me "build it on the BMWUSA web site, and knock off $2,500." Basically that means that the only fee is the $775 (if I remember) destination charge. Obviously gas-guzzler goes on top of that, but if that's the only add on besides taxes and tags, that's a pretty good deal, right? I want to make sure that I didn't miss anything. Thanks. -Seth
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dangoma Your Mom 13 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Danville, CA iTrader: (0)	Watch our for dealer doc fees. I have read some people being screwed with that. I only paid 55 bucks. Which I think was too much but whatever, its 55 bucks.
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Seth_Horwitz Tired of feather footed //M drivers 19 Rep 387 Posts Drives: 330ci, 911 Turbo X50 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	I'm assuming that $2,500 off of M.S.R.P. + $55 is still pretty good, right? Even if docs were $100, I think it looks too good to pass up. Let me know if I'm wrong. Thanks guys.
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malter2.0 Banned 61 Rep 908 Posts Drives: em-funf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0) Garage List 2000 E39 M5 - current [0.00] 2007 E92 335i - SOLD [0.00] 1996 E36 M3-SOLD [0.00] 2000 E39 M5-SOLD [0.00] 2001 E46 M3-SOLD [0.00] 1995 E36 M3-SOLD [0.00]	I have never heard dealer fees being $2500. Even it is something outrageous like $1000, it is still $1500 off MSRP, which is a great deal, although you have to remember by end of year, '09 will be available.
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milk242 Captain 184 Rep 760 Posts Drives: Car Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Dallas iTrader: (4)	Wow 2500 off is awesome on a DCT coupe! I have to talk to my CA about this price. BTW, do you think its ethical to renegotiate the price when the car arrives even though I already agreed to pay MSRP? __________________ 14 Audi S4 (sold) 16 BMW M3 (sold) 16 VW Golf GTI (sold) 20 Tesla Model 3 23 Audi R8 (on order, never came )
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ihyln Banned 85 Rep 3,384 Posts Drives: M3post sucks Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: M3post sucks iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00] 2002 530i [0.00]	I got about 2500 off on the E90 M3 as well.
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05-13-2008, 09:48 AM	#15
man02195 Lieutenant 19 Rep 492 Posts Drives: e90 M3 M-DCT, SG-status 111 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	That's a great price, go for it now. I got about that amount off MSRP and $0 other fees, all i have is $56.50 for a temp tag (performance delivery, they have to overnight the tag to SC) __________________ E90 M3 Sedan
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Davinhci Colonel 55 Rep 2,484 Posts Drives: 08 M3 E92 & 08 E70 X5 4.8 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (6) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	any discount is good man, MSRP here __________________ 08 E92 AW M3 \| HRE P40 19" \| APE Air Filter \| BMW Performance Grills \| White Side Gills \| CF Mirror Covers \| BMW Performance Pedals \| F1 Pinnacle Tint \| V1 Hardwire \| Dinan Performance Software \| Gintani Exhaust \| H&R Sports Springs \| RPI Scoops \| BMW CF Spoiler \| Challenge Diffuser \| Lux H8 V3 \| LCI Tail Lights \|
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sayemthree Major General 597 Rep 5,448 Posts Drives: ‘20 X3mC ‘20 Raptor ‘04 X3 6mt Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: usa so cal , AZ iTrader: (0)	sounds like a really good deal. __________________ Fore Sale Rare 6 speed manual X3 3.oi silver over grey. PM me
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spike357 Private First Class 9 Rep 157 Posts Drives: The 1st 2008 e92 M3 in NV Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 e92 M3 [0.00]	Very very good deal. Take it.
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TexasBMW Enlisted Member 2 Rep 44 Posts Drives: 2008 4.8, 2011 740i, 2019 X54. Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Just depends on your market. There are some non-metro area dealers here that will discount. I am going to guess rather heavy discounts for next year once demand tempers.
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ERM-M3 New Member 0 Rep 23 Posts Drives: E92 M3, MB E350 Join Date: May 2008 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	Whats up guys, new here. Ive been a lurker from day 1. Was wondering if anyone can comment on these numbers I just got for a e90 M. List price - 66,900 Selling price - 64,200 not including gas guzzler With just the fees up front..$2,230, monthly price he gave me is $1,156/36k-3yrs. with taxes up front, he gave me 1045...this is with a 00258 Base Rate . Would really appreciate it if you guys can comment on this deal..Thanks
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