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      08-28-2018, 07:10 PM   #1
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How much HP does my 2008 M3 make with 166,000 miles?

2008 E92 M3 with 166,000 miles and original rod bearings using Dyno Dynamics dyno and 94 degrees outside.

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Glad to see a high mileage car still on original rod bearings! what is your oil change interval and what oil do you use?
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Glad to see a high mileage car still on original rod bearings! what is your oil change interval and what oil do you use?
It depends on what time of year. During the winter I've been running 5w-40 Pennzoil platinum euro formula. During the summer 10w-60. I run my car the full 15,000 miles. I know it sounds crazy but I'm an engineer by trade and I understand the 15,000 limit is probably more of a mid spec. I guess you can change it sooner if you'd like but I consider that just wasting money, not like its so expensive anyways. If people go to the dealer I know I had to go one time in between moving and they tried to charge me $310. I argued them down to $220. I buy the Moly Liquid Kit that has the Mann filter and 9 quarts of 10w-60 on Amazon for like $110. Obviously I'm topping off my oil every few thousand miles like the manual says. Nothing special or out of the ordinary. I'm sure driving it every day helps too. People call me crazy for running my car for so long in between changes but my argument is "Why would BMW put a 15,000 oil countdown in your car if it wasn't design to go 15,000 miles between oil changes?" I've even noted that the harder you drive your car the faster that countdown moves. I'd like to say BMW engineers are idiots but BMW has been in the game for about 100 years now. I'd trust what they recommend but I also know what I can get away with too. I know the car does NOT need 10w-60 but I still run it in the summer anyways. I like the oil designed more for colder weather for the winter for cold starts
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If you trust the BMW engineers then you should be following their recommended 7,500 mile interval bulletin they put out in 2013. They changed it from 15k to 7.5k so you will want to start following that. Reason being that the oil is too far broken down and contaminated by the time it hits 15k. True story. Also, make sure if you ever sell her to tell the next owner that you have followed the 15k intervals as opposed to 3k to 7.5k as most of us do.
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If you trust the BMW engineers then you should be following their recommended 7,500 mile interval bulletin they put out in 2013. They changed it from 15k to 7.5k so you will want to start following that. Reason being that the oil is too far broken down and contaminated by the time it hits 15k. True story. Also, make sure if you ever sell her to tell the next owner that you have followed the 15k intervals as opposed to 3k to 7.5k as most of us do.
First Im hearing about that but I'll give it a look. Ive been good so far. Not sure If I want to change my routine up at this moment. I do run seafoam though in my oil before oil changes. Not sure if that makes a difference or not. I doubt it does. But by the time you get to 7500 most people have added 2-3 new quarts of oil anyways. That really adds to the life of the oil if you think about it. Thanks for the education. Something I need to research
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If you trust the BMW engineers then you should be following their recommended 7,500 mile interval bulletin they put out in 2013. They changed it from 15k to 7.5k so you will want to start following that. Reason being that the oil is too far broken down and contaminated by the time it hits 15k. True story. Also, make sure if you ever sell her to tell the next owner that you have followed the 15k intervals as opposed to 3k to 7.5k as most of us do.
First Im hearing about that but I'll give it a look. Ive been good so far. Not sure If I want to change my routine up at this moment. I do run seafoam though in my oil before oil changes. Not sure if that makes a difference or not. I doubt it does. But by the time you get to 7500 most people have added 2-3 new quarts of oil anyways. That really adds to the life of the oil if you think about it. Thanks for the education. Something I need to research
Hey your M3 and you have every right to run it as you see fit and it's working for you. Viva la M3!
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OP consider the 15,000 interval bullshit to keep active warranty oil changes less frequent during the warranty period. Like someone else said they dropped the 15,000 down to 7,500 because they KNEW warranties were up and the proper recommendation should be released to avoid claims. Do your own changes and consider dropping down to 5 or 7,000. If you were to look in a BMW motor that followed the 15,000 spec at 60,000 the inside will have a yellowish orange tint from oil residue and buildup burnt in.
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This proves my theory. High mileage cars with the original rod bearings are not being driven very hard. If he's using the count down and it's going to 15K that means he can't be driving the car very hard.

He even said it, the harder you drive the quicker it counts down.
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Look into FCP Euro's free replacement program. Buy once and you get free replacements for the life of the car. I'd change it every 5k, but I'm lazy so I do 7.5k, using FCP's program.
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Hey your M3 and you have every right to run it as you see fit and it's working for you. Viva la M3!
this is true. Its lasted this long after I bought it used at 82k miles. So not bad for a used car at all I think!
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Is it just me, or does the Dyno operator quit at 7500RPM instead of 8300RPM? Watch the video..
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There's some more ponies under that hood waiting to be let out..
I noticed that too but when you look at the tach its up there at 8300
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OP consider the 15,000 interval bullshit to keep active warranty oil changes less frequent during the warranty period. Like someone else said they dropped the 15,000 down to 7,500 because they KNEW warranties were up and the proper recommendation should be released to avoid claims. Do your own changes and consider dropping down to 5 or 7,000. If you were to look in a BMW motor that followed the 15,000 spec at 60,000 the inside will have a yellowish orange tint from oil residue and buildup burnt in.
My car is way beyond any warranty. Its basically maintain decent or the car is going to die. Could I maintain it better? Yes of course. But I'll be honest, I'm keeping up with what I've been doing. Right now I see no reason why I can't go to 200k miles before replacing anything else except maybe the other TA where the board hasn't failed...yet. Even then thats a 2 hour job and $600. no biggie there. Plus I run SeaFoam in my car for like 500 miles before I do an oil change. This will clean things up a bit. And with the car losing a quart of oil every few thousand miles you are essentially adding new oil little buy little. So if I went the full 15k miles I typically will have added in 4 new quartz of oil. Thats almost half of the oil needed for a fresh oil change. IDk...this is my 6th BMW and 4th M3 and I maintain them all pretty much the same. Its worked for well over 15 years and I hope it will work for many more years to come. I'm been very pleased with my cars performance and reliability. Not to say it won't destroy itself on the way home but its a daily driver for me. I don't see myself tracking my daily in fear of destroying it completely by running into a barrier HAHA!
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Look into FCP Euro's free replacement program. Buy once and you get free replacements for the life of the car. I'd change it every 5k, but I'm lazy so I do 7.5k, using FCP's program.
I'll look into this but my car is about to be parked for the next 2 years
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This proves my theory. High mileage cars with the original rod bearings are not being driven very hard. If he's using the count down and it's going to 15K that means he can't be driving the car very hard.

He even said it, the harder you drive the quicker it counts down.
Its no theory, I notice the same thing. Most DD cars arent tracked. I enjoy the car, do a bit of racing here and there when some fuckboy pulls up in a Honda but other than that its back and forth to work with style HAHA! Also I have a huge fear of wrecking my car on a track.
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OP consider the 15,000 interval bullshit to keep active warranty oil changes less frequent during the warranty period. Like someone else said they dropped the 15,000 down to 7,500 because they KNEW warranties were up and the proper recommendation should be released to avoid claims. Do your own changes and consider dropping down to 5 or 7,000. If you were to look in a BMW motor that followed the 15,000 spec at 60,000 the inside will have a yellowish orange tint from oil residue and buildup burnt in.
My car is way beyond any warranty. Its basically maintain decent or the car is going to die. Could I maintain it better? Yes of course. But I'll be honest, I'm keeping up with what I've been doing. Right now I see no reason why I can't go to 200k miles before replacing anything else except maybe the other TA where the board hasn't failed...yet. Even then thats a 2 hour job and $600. no biggie there. Plus I run SeaFoam in my car for like 500 miles before I do an oil change. This will clean things up a bit. And with the car losing a quart of oil every few thousand miles you are essentially adding new oil little buy little. So if I went the full 15k miles I typically will have added in 4 new quartz of oil. Thats almost half of the oil needed for a fresh oil change. IDk...this is my 6th BMW and 4th M3 and I maintain them all pretty much the same. Its worked for well over 15 years and I hope it will work for many more years to come. I'm been very pleased with my cars performance and reliability. Not to say it won't destroy itself on the way home but its a daily driver for me. I don't see myself tracking my daily in fear of destroying it completely by running into a barrier HAHA!
I agree the car should go 200,000 without a failure. My M3 is at 162,XXX already. I do the oil and filter every 5,000 myself. No failures yet. It's my daily in socal. I still think the 15,000 interval is too long but that is only my opinion.
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The 7500 mike recommendation was for the newer turbo cars, not the e9x M cars, isn’t it?

I change mine every 7500 miles but just wanted to clarify the above.

OP: congrats on the mileage. Very impressive. I succumbed to the hype and had my rod bearings changed and got the oil pan stripped and alignment off for the trouble. Hope the main bearings don’t go.
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