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04-16-2012, 10:32 AM | #45 |
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So for those of us with mods who do not want to go to the dealer, is there a vendor to which we can mail or ECU for the update for a fee?
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04-16-2012, 11:04 AM | #47 |
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Interesting. I'm running 100E FYI. My car is a 08/09 build and has never been updated. Perhaps time to change that...
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Get a dyno first!
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However, you might cause issues if you update the DME to the newest version and fail to update other control units in the car. In fact, this could potentially halt the dealer systems and could potentially mark your DME is failed when hooked up to BMW diagnostics equipment. This is because the ISTA/P integration level is different across modules in the car. If you are going to perform an update to the DME, make sure you flash the rest of the car to the corresponding software level as well.
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If you are using the factory ISTA/P programming machine with the factory ICOM-A and ICOM-B (for MOST-BUS Fiber Optic equipped cars like ours), the voltage MUST be atleast 13.2V or the software will simply not allow you continue. Recommended by the factory is a 75AMP battery stabilizer with 14.2V for programming. This is what I use for programming vehicles that come to me. There is no reason to hook a charger up to the car to update the DME. It's the other updates that take significantly longer (such as the CIC/Navigation System), and this will require a charger. I usually use the factory programs from Germany to update the control units. It doesn't care what the voltage is as it is an expert tool, where the dealer tools hold your hand along the way. To update a complete car takes somewhere between an hour and four hours, depending on how out of date it is. I always hook a volt meter up to the car during programming to make sure that voltages are in check. I also have an ICOM emulator which lets me use the factory tools to program control units through a standard OBDII/D-Can cable. Updating the DME, FRM, CAS, etc is ok using the D-Can cable. But for transmission control units (EGS) such as DCT, and navigation updates, programming it with a D-CAN cable is asking for trouble as it can't handle the command rate and protocol switching that the factory ICOM unit does. Edit: M3PO: If you have DCT, its highly advised that this is programmed in conjunction with the DME. If you don't, there are still a number of other modules in the car that will likely require an update. The ISTA/P Programming levels are released in packages - meaning all of updates within a contained package have been tested to work in conjunction with each-other. Mixing levels is possible, but not an ideal situation. Installing a DME update while the rest of your car is on an older level, is technically mixing levels. I don't see much of an issue with updating the DME + Transmission control (or just the DME if you are 6MT) without doing the others, although it is not preferable. You may run into strange issues at the dealer if you have a mixed software level in the car. When the car is plugged in, it will display "Last Touched With ISTA/P 4X.X". This integration level corresponds with specific software level numbers programmed into each control unit. If there is a conflict there, it may show the updated control units as failed because the level doesn't correspond with the integration level of the car. This happened to me months ago.. I updated the FZD (sunroof function control module) to a later version and took the car to the dealer for a software level update. It showed that module as failed and refused to program the car to the latest levels until that module was replaced. I then reprogrammed the module to the older version matching the integration level, and the module (and the rest of the car) were successfully updated.
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Im going to the dealership on Thursday (for other reasons) I plan on asking for the update to the 213E (i have an 6mt 08/09) Besides for that update is there any other software changes that i should ask for?
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04-16-2012, 09:08 PM | #58 |
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I believe the latest update fixes the dct issues where the car won't go into gear without having a seat belt... So if you have that update, isn't that the latest?
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Unless there is a significant reason/recall for the updates (software or other mechanical issue), the dealership will charge you for updates. FYI: 213E is a typo, the title should read 231E. This is due to a CAS misalignment error, which appeared in 2.45 and is supposed to be rectified in 2.46.X.
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I know that... I got that update... But I don't know of this is the same "update" we're all discussing here.
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Can you post how much this will be if dealer will not cover it? I have a cpo as well and I'm due for service soon. Just wanna know how much lube I have to bring with me.
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So I've got to ask for the " ISTA/P SW versions (2.46.1 at this time)"
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I have received a few PM's and emails asking about this software version. We have been tuning with 231E since its release. When a customer orders our performance software they are updated to a tuned version of 231E automatically so there is no need to get this update before purchasing our tune.
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Alternatively, you can seek an autologic flashing facility (such as us) as a dealer alternative.
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