2013 GTR Pulling 2.8 G's!! This beast VS. what??

[stylinexpat]

Braking G's and cornering G's are out of this world for a street car. Acceleration numbers are sick too for a street car. 2013 definitely impresses.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...japanese_spec/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=iM0lQhJ-I9A

[tha_good_life]

[JonnyM3]

What an impressive machine

[MR///M3]

yea I saw that yesterday... my mind was blown

[Kyoshi71]

Oh, another GT-R thread.

[alms211]

Take this shit to NAGTROC.

Moderators -- this is the "vs M3" section. Will you please do what you are supposed to do and monitor. This isn't a comparison vs the M3......... and even if it was there are more than enough GTR threads in this section AND OTHERS already.

[BMW269]

There are to many M3 driver going over to the GT-R. Look how any GT-R threads there are. I hope the new M3/M4 F8X with FI is going to be as beasty as the GT-R.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

At the GT-R haters. Jealousy can do that to you.

[Nine]

I'd have to agree on the relevance, I could fill this forum with Porsche and Chevy news as well, I'm not sure how it relates to the M3

Originally Posted by Levi

There are to many M3 driver going over to the GT-R. Look how any GT-R threads there are. I hope the new M3/M4 F8X with FI is going to be as beasty as the GT-R.

Don't get your hopes up The M3 and GT-R are not direct competitors, I would actually say that BMW does not make a car that competes with the GT-R, or rather created to compete with the GT-R.

The M4 will likely continue to be what the M3 is now, a great all around car, not a hot lap production race car. You can see BMW focusing on things like APPS, whereas Nissan is working on different tires, diffs and brakes. I wonder how draining ($)it is on Nissan to support their GT-R R&D, for BMW it's all about whether or not they want to invest in entering the super car war the way Chevy, Ford, Lexus, Porsche have.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by Nine

I'd have to agree on the relevance, I could fill this forum with Porsche and Chevy news as well, I'm not sure how it relates to the M3



Don't get your hopes up The M3 and GT-R are not direct competitors, I would actually say that BMW does not make a car that competes with the GT-R, or rather created to compete with the GT-R.

The M4 will likely continue to be what the M3 is now, a great all around car, not a hot lap production race car. You can see BMW focusing on things like APPS, whereas Nissan is working on different tires, diffs and brakes. I wonder how draining ($)it is on Nissan to support their GT-R R&D, for BMW it's all about whether or not they want to invest in entering the super car war the way Chevy, Ford, Lexus, Porsche have.

If BMW could make a supercar to compete with the likes of the R8, GT-R, 911, they would of done it by now. BMW's focus is on niche markets like the X4, X2, X3 ///M X4 ///M and further abomination of the M brand and the BMW badge. If BMW were to make a supercar it would cost them, which is why they haven't done it and probably won't. Even if BMW wanted to do it, they still wouldn't. The closest thing to a supercar we'll get is the i8.

[alms211]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

At the GT-R haters. Jealousy can do that to you.

No jealousy here GTRboy. I test drove one when I sold my Vette. Could buy 5 of them if I wanted. Didn't like it. It's fast.............and big, and ugly, and noisey, and the most cluttered, piss poor designed interior I think I've ever seen. No thanks. I'd take a Porsche 997 Turbo over that thing all day, every day.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by alms211

No jealousy here GTRboy. I test drove one when I sold my Vette. Could buy 5 of them if I wanted. Didn't like it. It's fast.............and big, and ugly, and noisey, and the most cluttered, piss poor designed interior I think I've ever seen. No thanks. I'd take a Porsche 997 Turbo over that thing all day, every day.

As would I but for the price, the GT-R is second to none. Yes, the GT-R is ugly. Yes, the GT-R is heavy. Yes, it's big. Yes, the interior could use some better materials. The point of the GT-R is to go fast blistering fast. It's not for everyone. The noisy diff, the clanking gearbox, all make it what it is. Ot's 1/3 of the price of a 997 turbo and it hangs pretty nicely with one. You gatta give credit where credit is due.

[alms211]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

As would I but for the price, the GT-R is second to none. Yes, the GT-R is ugly. Yes, the GT-R is heavy. Yes, it's big. Yes, the interior could use some better materials. The point of the GT-R is to go fast blistering fast. It's not for everyone. The noisy diff, the clanking gearbox, all make it what it is. Ot's 1/3 of the price of a 997 turbo and it hangs pretty nicely with one. You gatta give credit where credit is due.

Give credit where it's due? I have... as has 99.9% of every other M3 owner on here. It's just getting old. How many more times does the topic need to be discussed?

[Gearhead999s]

No question the GTRs are a very fast car but I am having a very hard time believing the G numbers that they are bandying about here.A production based racecar without big aero aids on slicks is very pressed to see much over 1.5-1.7 g's in steady state cornering on unbanked corners.
The other big question is whether the track package will even be available here in North America and how much difference in performance will the car be that we receive here in North America.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by alms211

Give credit where it's due? I have... as has 99.9% of every other M3 owner on here. It's just getting old. How many more times does the topic need to be discussed?

Former M3 owners are jumping ship to something that offers performance like nothing else in any comparable class. More and more people will be jumping ship because of what the GT-R offers. Mind boggling performance and almost usable back seats. Isn't that what the M3 offers? The GT-R takes what the M3 can do, and multiplies it x10000.

The M3 after 6 years is still the class leader. No getting around that as it offers day to day comfort, and lets you take it to the track. The GT-R also does this and it directly competes with what the M3 in the way that, it can actually corner(Well, the electronics can corner).

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by Gearhead999s

No question the GTRs are a very fast car but I am having a very hard time believing the G numbers that they are bandying about here.A production based racecar without big aero aids on slicks is very pressed to see much over 1.5-1.7 g's in steady state cornering on unbanked corners.
The other big question is whether the track package will even be available here in North America and how much difference in performance will the car be that we receive here in North America.

+1

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by alms211

Give credit where it's due? I have... as has 99.9% of every other M3 owner on here. It's just getting old. How many more times does the topic need to be discussed?

You have to give it credit because it is yet again another upgraded version of the r35. They keep making it better and better and with this version they didn't do as much as the first upgrade but they managed to make ot even more amazing. Isn't it every car companies dream to make a car that is the best and is heard and seen around the world? Well Nissan is doing something right with the gtr if everyone and their mothers are making threads about them

[Ateam]

Its a tough sell to make that the m3 offers anything over the GTR except for appearence and image. It basically is the ultimate all around car and is a completely easy car to drive around the city, has back seats and is beyond a track monster.

I personally just do not like the look of the GTR for ME. I think its a great looking race car but I am a person who does not like uber attention and just does not fit my life. I would love to get it as a dedicated track car but I do not have the money to buy a 80k dollar weekend car at the moment.

However bmw can only hold on to loyal bmw enthusiasts for so long without actually stepping up their performance as name and brand can only take you so far. Even the Merc is obliterating the performance of the m3 in anything but the corners and even that is close. If they know what is best they really better jack up the performance of the next gen m3. However its already limited by where the m5 sits at 555hp. The m3 cannot come within 50hp of that and thus will not be at 500hp where it really needs to be to compete for the next 8 years. 500-550hp will be the next benchmark for this class of cars-m3, RS4, merc c63 etc. I feel m3 will likely come in at 455-460 hp and be having to sell its handling and driving experience rather than truly selling it as the top performer in all categories, not just around track.

The other thing the m3 still has going for it, is that its one of the only high revving, race bred engines out there. RS4/5 is probably the only other aside from super car land. The GTR is way faster but some prefer the nice high revving v8. However the next m3 will not obviously have this so will lose yet another reason that m3 owners are even sticking to the brand.

[tma1c]

Still one of the ugliest sports car imo. The only reason I dont own one.

[MRSSIIM3]

wtf

stock 2013 is approaching the same numbers as the modded 2009 ones are

damn. i wouldnt replace my M with this but id definitely add this to the fleet

[persian54]

Originally Posted by alms211

Take this shit to NAGTROC.

Moderators -- this is the "vs M3" section. Will you please do what you are supposed to do and monitor. This isn't a comparison vs the M3......... and even if it was there are more than enough GTR threads in this section AND OTHERS already.

Ok...

I wonder how the 2014 M3 will compare to the 2013 GTR

there, it's a vs. M3 thread now

[LateBraking]

I vote for a www.m3post.com/GT-R.