FINALIZED EQ Settings for Enhanced Premium Sound. LOOK INSIDE.

Malek@MRF · 12-14-2011, 01:21 PM

All testing and settings were completed in a stationary car. Engine NOT running with all windows up.

Conducting such a test in a moving car or with the engine running would be a pretty pointless exercise.

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Malekreza11

All testing and settings were completed in a stationary car. Engine NOT running with all windows up.

Conducting such a test in a moving car or with the engine running would be a pretty pointless exercise.

why if that is how you listen to the music 99 percent of the time?

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

Today's pop/rock songs are all mastered too loudly. You'll have a hard time trying to get the BMW EQ to overcome an inherent problem with the mastering of the recording itself.

Please view:

all 3 examples in that sound the same aside from second being louder. bad example

stefan · 12-14-2011, 06:03 PM

JUST saw this thread now. Thanks.. I was losing it. I guess it's wrong of me to had expected the a totally neutral EQ setting to actually be neutral.

SamS · 12-14-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ateam

all 3 examples in that sound the same aside from second being louder. bad example

You might be misinterpreting the example. I see a lot of people trying to overcome the reduced dynamics of a compressed mastering (i.e. 99% of today's pop/rock recordings) with EQ changes. That's why all this moaning about "sounds good with pop, bad with jazz", etc. A real high-end system will sound good with all properly mastered recordings. When you have loud iTunes-mastered stuff, you're going to be fooling with the EQ all day long.

Ateam · 12-14-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

You might be misinterpreting the example. I see a lot of people trying to overcome the reduced dynamics of a compressed mastering (i.e. 99% of today's pop/rock recordings) with EQ changes. That's why all this moaning about "sounds good with pop, bad with jazz", etc. A real high-end system will sound good with all properly mastered recordings. When you have loud iTunes-mastered stuff, you're going to be fooling with the EQ all day long.

I get that a good system is SUPPOSED to not need to really adjust EQ, however the m3 system sounds like garbage with the EQ not adjusted so we are forced to adjust it to get a decent sound. I have realized different songs are going to sound drastically different and that is just how it is. I guess my past stereos have been such garbage that I never could tell the difference in quality but the m3 system is decent enough quality where it illustrates a big difference between different songs and recording quality. Some times less is more. With my crap system I just cranked volume up and it sounded like a hollow tin can but atleast I got the same quality (crap quality albeit) with every song!

ChrisK · 02-03-2012, 11:54 AM

I have a new set of settings which finally makes the BMW Premium system sound good (tooo me)

100 Hz: +3
200 Hz: -2
500 Hz: -1
1000 Hz: +2
2000 Hz: +3
5000 Hz: +1
10000 Hz: -3

Treble: +5
Bass: +4

Front/Rear Balance: Rear: +1

No Surround

DylanMckay · 02-03-2012, 06:35 PM

wow that would be ear piercing treble! Really no point in turning up the treble controller.

You should use the bottom 3 or 4 equalizer bars to adjust the treble since the treble bar will take treble out of all frequencies rather than selectively out of only the range where it is too loud or too soft

Das M · 05-15-2012, 10:56 AM

Any word on the E90 settings?

SamS · 05-15-2012, 11:26 AM

I have an E92 with EPS, I will definitely record my settings this afternoon and post here. I spent a lot of time making sure the response was flat (not smiley-faced EQ) and applicable to all types of music, i.e. levels of compression.

SamS · 05-21-2012, 09:12 AM

OK, here are my E92 settings for EPS.

Although I generally dislike a synthesized fake surround sound, I found Surround On to give a better soundstage, with more centered vocals.

My settings below help reduce some of the crushing treble (at defaults) and still give enough bass to avoid distortion and med-high levels.

ChrisK · 05-21-2012, 09:46 AM

That's a heavy fade to the front, my front speakers are already to loud.

SamS · 05-21-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

That's a heavy fade to the front, my front speakers are already to loud.

I like a front-biased soundstage. If you move it back, I find the vocals get lost in a discombobulated mess.

My reference 2-channel system at home is Bowers & Wilkins N802 fronts, McIntosh MC-402 amp, Denon AVP processor. These settings are the closest I could get to match the balance of what I have at home.

ChrisK · 05-21-2012, 10:11 AM

The rest of my settings are pretty close to yours. This car has way to much mid-range for my liking.

SamS · 05-21-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

The rest of my settings are pretty close to yours. This car has way to much mid-range for my liking.

Above you posted that you boosted your 1kHz/2kHz, why, if you don't like that much mids?

ChrisK · 05-21-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SamS

Above you posted that you boosted your 1kHz/2kHz, why, if you don't like that much mids?

I have changed my settings again. I swear the sound has changed the longer I have the car.

BPMSport · 05-26-2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 335viaSTi

Any word on the E90 settings?

+1 - Would definitely give my car up as a tester for it. I'm new when it comes to audio stuff.

Also, anyone looking for the 2012 EPS amp, I have one here I'd like to offload since it won't work in my car without wiring changes ;(

Malek@MRF · 05-29-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

+1 - Would definitely give my car up as a tester for it. I'm new when it comes to audio stuff.

Also, anyone looking for the 2012 EPS amp, I have one here I'd like to offload since it won't work in my car without wiring changes ;(

Mike,

Come stop by the shop when you have a little free time. Lets set up the E90 so the E90 boys can enjoy these settings as well.

Let me know brotha.

Malek

JesusMChrist · 05-29-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

My reference 2-channel system at home is Bowers & Wilkins N802 fronts, McIntosh MC-402 amp, Denon AVP processor.

zibawal · 06-03-2012, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SamS

OK, here are my E92 settings for EPS.

Although I generally dislike a synthesized fake surround sound, I found Surround On to give a better soundstage, with more centered vocals.

My settings below help reduce some of the crushing treble (at defaults) and still give enough bass to avoid distortion and med-high levels.

I bet these settings shall sound diff between E93, E92 and E90? as interior cabins are different. Any one on E93?

schnell325 · 06-03-2012, 02:47 PM

Nice thread!! Thanks!

MMMMM3 · 06-15-2012, 07:02 PM

What about those e90 settings? We're patiently waiting.

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