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      11-29-2016, 05:45 PM   #45
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Gatte, see below insight from our resident BMW insider:
Resident insider has been wrong before. The BMW CSLs in the past have not been overly radical or more radical than the current GTS is. The features that they've emphasized on are weight savings and aerodynamics to a certain degree. Even the power output has not been that different from the regular M offerings.

The CSLs were always daily drivers that you could take to the track and compete. Price wise, they've not been as expensive as the M4 GTS is when compared to the regular M4. They've never had roll cages like the track focused GTS does. Why would BMW move away from tradition and redefine the CSL brand into something that it never was.

Price wise, you're looking at ~200K prices if it was slotted above the GTS which would be hard to fathom if the car was not the M1 CSL. The innovations and futuristic features that are not weight related would first be seen in the i-series and maybe even the GTS. Hence the order would still be:
Base ///M < Competition Packet < CSL < GTS.
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Only a few weeks to go before 2016 comes to an end. So are we going to see the M4 CSL or what?
You have already seen it. Its the 2002 Hommage.
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You have already seen it. Its the 2002 Hommage.
So it will be the M2 CSL and not the M4 CSL...I love the 2002 Hommage
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So it will be the M2 CSL and not the M4 CSL...I love the 2002 Hommage
So if I got this right, the CSL 3.0 Hommage is a concept for an M4 CSL and the 2002 Hommage is a concept for an M2 CSL. I wonder if they will actually make any of these on the current F8X platforms...
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Resident insider has been wrong before. The BMW CSLs in the past have not been overly radical or more radical than the current GTS is. The features that they've emphasized on are weight savings and aerodynamics to a certain degree. Even the power output has not been that different from the regular M offerings.

The CSLs were always daily drivers that you could take to the track and compete. Price wise, they've not been as expensive as the M4 GTS is when compared to the regular M4. They've never had roll cages like the track focused GTS does. Why would BMW move away from tradition and redefine the CSL brand into something that it never was.

Price wise, you're looking at ~200K prices if it was slotted above the GTS which would be hard to fathom if the car was not the M1 CSL. The innovations and futuristic features that are not weight related would first be seen in the i-series and maybe even the GTS. Hence the order would still be:
Base ///M < Competition Packet < CSL < GTS.
BMW can do whatever they want with their designations. They have not been proven to be consistent over the years. Maybe we need to add to the progression:

Base ///M < CP < CS < GTS < CSL

If BMW will make such a CSL on the current F8X platform remains to be seen.
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