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      12-23-2018, 01:04 PM   #23
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Yeah even most expensive Bmw m3 CRT is 4 door. You win we loose
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      12-23-2018, 01:40 PM   #24
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I think the biggest factor in e92 and e90 value (aside from mileage and condition) is going to be color and options, in this order, starting with the most valuable option:

- Special Edition (Lime Rock, CRT, GTS)
- Individual and frozen colors
- ZCP package
- less common colors (LMB, Interlagos, Melbourne, etc)
- carbon roof
- manual transmission

(All other options and packages will make a negligible difference in the car's value, in my opinion)

I think, regardless of whether it's a sedan or coupe, they're going to bottom out around the $20k mark and flop around a bit, the attributes I listed above will likely be the only things that increase the M3s value.

I don't believe the e90 or e92 are any more or less valuable than each other to the market. It's a matter of preference. I think the e92 looks better, that's why i bought mine.
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      12-23-2018, 02:27 PM   #25
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e90 Increasing in value?

Right or wrong I'll play the black sheep and troll a bit to spark an interesting conversation. The same ol' one sided circle jerk about car values gets boring af. Just a bunch of insecure m3 owners looking for reassurance that their ride's not a money pit. I can sift through the slander and learn a little, makes for a more interesting read.
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If a e90 with 100k miles is going for 30k then what about those low miles examples that are hiding out lol

Hell yea they are increasing
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      12-23-2018, 03:12 PM   #27
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I actually just searched BMW pre-owned website last night and the choices were very slim. Not a single car I would have pursued if I was in the market. E90's were definitely harder to find.

In general, it's getting tougher to find a clean, lower mile examples with desirable specs and options. If a e92 had low miles, zcp, manual, and good color combo, it would have a sunroof. If a e90 had zcp, manual, and nice colors, it would be beat and have high miles. And the rest were e93s. It's only going to get worse finding a nice example and if you do, be ready to pay $35k+.
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      12-23-2018, 05:41 PM   #28
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I actually just searched BMW pre-owned website last night and the choices were very slim. Not a single car I would have pursued if I was in the market. E90's were definitely harder to find.

In general, it's getting tougher to find a clean, lower mile examples with desirable specs and options. If a e92 had low miles, zcp, manual, and good color combo, it would have a sunroof. If a e90 had zcp, manual, and nice colors, it would be beat and have high miles. And the rest were e93s. It's only going to get worse finding a nice example and if you do, be ready to pay $35k+.
Agreed - the desirable cars with the right option spec, low miles and maintenance history will command top dollar - same for either e90 or e92.

That said it's still not an investment - if you pick the right car maybe you won't lose on depreciation at this point but time value of money not invested, taxes, insurance, maintenance all will cost more than any likely appreciation.
Now that said if u have a 1000 mile e90 slick-top please give me PM.
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      12-23-2018, 07:26 PM   #29
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What I find interesting is the comments about these E90s with high miles selling for over $30k, but I get shit for pricing my 1/16 E90 with Competition the way I did even with a full warranty and extensive maintenance history. Car has had over $15k in work done in 1.5 yrs
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      12-23-2018, 07:31 PM   #30
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First thing first the owner must drive and enjoy their car. Probably 99% of the cars out there today don't appreciate.If they go up in price that's just a bonus. I currently have a E90 2011 (46k miles)with competition package .Space Gray with Palladium Silver/Black Interior. Only 12 made with this combination. Will it go up? I doubt it but it would nice if it did in the long run. I only have owned it for a year and a half but I don't plan on selling it anytime soon unless something else comes along that would make sell my M. Tip of the day: Enjoy the car and forget thinking about what if it goes up in price.
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      12-23-2018, 07:38 PM   #31
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I have '08 E90 slicktop 6 speed manual,couple months ago had a chance to trade it in for 2011 E92 ZCP DTC with Gintani supercharger,Vorsteiner wheels,MPE ,... ,could not do it.
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      12-23-2018, 08:42 PM   #32
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What I find interesting is the comments about these E90s with high miles selling for over $30k, but I get shit for pricing my 1/16 E90 with Competition the way I did even with a full warranty and extensive maintenance history. Car has had over $15k in work done in 1.5 yrs
No matter how you price a car there is always someone who lets you know they can't afford it.
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      12-23-2018, 08:48 PM   #33
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I want to drive my car into the ground. Not preserving it for the next owner while I park it and drive some other car most of the time.

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      12-23-2018, 09:31 PM   #34
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Sure 30k might sound a lot today but give it 5-10
Years and see that 40-50k would be chump change when next m3 is 120k+and doesn't give you the same feeling.

Desirable specs might command a premium but you will get over that too when you want something closest to new possible, while everything else
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E90 M3s have bottomed out in price already and are starting to trend up in price, especially 6MTs. Haters gonna hate.
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E90 M3s have bottomed out in price already and are starting to trend up in price, especially 6MTs. Haters gonna hate.
I'll put it this way. I bought my 2011 E90 in August of 2017. In August of 2018, my car was totaled by someone. After some back and forth with the insurance company, they paid me effectively what I paid for it a year and 15,000 miles prior. And believe me, if an INSURANCE company was willing to write that check, an individual would have given me more than I bought it for.
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Cars for sale that are priced at market value will sell in a reasonable time frame of 90 days.

The cars that sit for many months with numerous bumps from the sellers are obviously overpriced. The sellers can say they are not in a rush to sell, not desperate, etc etc, but the simple fact is they are over priced and their cars will not sell.

To the OP’s original question, I think e90 prices have leveled off, but high mileage cars will continue to drop.
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Cars for sale that are priced at market value will sell in a reasonable time frame of 90 days.

The cars that sit for many months with numerous bumps from the sellers are obviously overpriced. The sellers can say they are not in a rush to sell, not desperate, etc etc, but the simple fact is they are over priced and their cars will not sell.

To the OP’s original question, I think e90 prices have leveled off, but high mileage cars will continue to drop.
higher mileage cars will obviously be less than lower mileage (assuming the same condition level) but higher mileage will not drop off disproportionate to the whole model and year. They all have flattened off, with different specs and miles having different ranges.
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I actually just searched BMW pre-owned website last night and the choices were very slim. Not a single car I would have pursued if I was in the market. E90's were definitely harder to find.

In general, it's getting tougher to find a clean, lower mile examples with desirable specs and options. If a e92 had low miles, zcp, manual, and good color combo, it would have a sunroof. If a e90 had zcp, manual, and nice colors, it would be beat and have high miles. And the rest were e93s. It's only going to get worse finding a nice example and if you do, be ready to pay $35k+.
Yep, part of why it took me so long to pull the trigger was waiting for a combo I wanted. I really didn’t want a black interior, that was the thing that took the longest.
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E90's will climb in value. I believe we have seen the bottom of the barrel in terms of prices.

I for one do not care about market trends with this car. I bought it two years ago as my forever car. I will continue to drive, replace broken parts, and repeat until either I die of natural causes or the car kills me.
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As with everything in life, an object is worth exactly as much as a buyer is willing to pay.

~5300 E30 M3 cars were sold in NA. Given the lack of supply, it does not take a large percentage of the NA population to want one to drive up the price.

~6000 E90 M3 cars were sold in NA. This will also not take a large percentage of the NA population to want one to drive up the price.

~16000 E92 M3 cars were sold in NA. Economic theory would suggest that it will take ~3 times as many interested NA buyers to similarly effect the E92 market.

Only time will tell if people actually want these cars.
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You guys do realize that it will be a long time to see any significant increase. What are you going to do not drive your car waiting for it to go up in value. Keep in mind also that banks don't give a shit about the market. Go try and get a loan for E30 M3. How many people out there can find $70-$80k in cash.
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I’m little curious. What would you pay for this 2013 E92 SPG ZCP?
18K miles, ZCP,CF Roof, DCT, Stock everything (not a single mods), Super Sport 4S,Navigation.

I can’t find anything anywhere in the US for sale with this Specs by the way.
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As with everything in life, an object is worth exactly as much as a buyer is willing to pay.

~5300 E30 M3 cars were sold in NA. Given the lack of supply, it does not take a large percentage of the NA population to want one to drive up the price.

~6000 E90 M3 cars were sold in NA. This will also not take a large percentage of the NA population to want one to drive up the price.

~16000 E92 M3 cars were sold in NA. Economic theory would suggest that it will take ~3 times as many interested NA buyers to similarly effect the E92 market.

Only time will tell if people actually want these cars.
Or said another way, there are 22,000 E90 and E92 cars.

Imo - I can't see any meaningful price difference between the two cars long term same spec vs same spec. If 10 years from now a cherry low mileage E90 is worth $65k then I bet a cherry E92 will be worth about the same and if less then only a few thousand, price will be close as they are basically the same car. Your not going to see a cherry E90 worth $90k and a same spec cherry E92 worth $50k.

I do think these cars have bottomed and will stabilize and even slightly rise. The big issue is many people are scared of the rod bearing hype and that could hold values down for a while.
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