Gauging Interest in First to Market Features - Map Switching and More!

[racingmonkey]

I'd be interested in 4, 5, 6, 7

[sterile stork]

Interested certainly and wholly! <Insert Fry Shutup & Take my Money>

[PandaM3]

I'd be interested in 7 if there is a 100% stock mode that passes California emissions testing since they are going to start scanning the ecu for aftermarket software this month.

I'd also be interested if there is a faster way to get emissions readiness to go green more quickly rather than going through several weeks of drive cycles.

[drwankel]

Hey Mike! Two questions with some of the proposed features

5) Engaging Neutral for DCT cars when both shift paddles are pulled simultaneously

-- I would love it if in combination with this we could put the car back in drive when its moving. The use case- although kind of silly, is I'd love to be able to quickly throw it in neutral and rev at someone, and then put it back in gear while moving. Something easy to do with a manual obviously, but as I'm sure we have all discovered the car needs to be stopped to put it back in gear.

6) Starting Mode Change for Traction control and DCT shift aggressiveness (such as starting car with MDM defaulting to on, Shift level 4 - any combination) / or M-Drive Defaults on

--For those of us with a GTS variant tune, i'd love to be able to start the car in manual mode again by default. As you know, the GTS tune variants starts in auto mode all the time.

--Lastly, would these features be a replacement DCT tune, or something that works with the DCT tune you already have? I have the dinan tune, and it works great, no real plan on changing it.

[gtenedio]

interested!

[SCREAM3R]

I would definitely be interested in a few of these!

[MaximusB]

Originally Posted by BPMSport

Have been mulling over a few things that have been in development and wanted to gauge interest before finalizing the offering.

So far, we have managed to do the following:
5) Engaging Neutral for DCT cars when both shift paddles are pulled simultaneously
6) Starting Mode Change for Traction control and DCT shift aggressiveness (such as starting car with MDM defaulting to on, Shift level 4 - any combination) / or M-Drive Defaults on

Is there any way to able to start the car in manual mode after DCT tune?

[nrubenstein]

6, 4, 3 for me.

I hate having to switch MDM every time I start the car. Coolant temp display would be huge. Shift lights would be kind of nice, but I wouldn't do those separately.

[Dr Ed]

As a DCT/Non I-drive owner, 2,4,5, and 6 would take my money.

[slcook54]

Originally Posted by PandaM3

I'd be interested in 7 if there is a 100% stock mode that passes California emissions testing since they are going to start scanning the ecu for aftermarket software this month.

I'd also be interested if there is a faster way to get emissions readiness to go green more quickly rather than going through several weeks of drive cycles.

Mike, can we get confirmation on this? This is a big decision factor for me too

[Beyond_Ill]

As a soon to be M owner, I would appreciate most of these features.

[BPMSport]

Thanks everyone for all your input and replies!! I will definitely reply to all of the questions later this week.

I've spent about 8 hours on development today and made great progress on the foundational framework for #7.

I think that when this is done, it's going to be the most significant user adjustable advancement on this platform to date.

Really excited for this, the items in post one will only be a very small fraction of the capabilities!

[HGreen335]

Very interested…. It's nice having the MHD app on the phone, logging, maps for the N54. So much easier. Subscribed

[gh0stE92M3]

I'd be in for the switchable maps.

[LakeSurfer]

I interested,

I understand this is not part of the deal, as far as remote starting in a 6mt is concerned, isn't there a switch or something is the car knows it's in gear or neutral? I have no idea but if there was couldn't you write the code to not remote start the car if in gear? Or have the remote start linked to only start with the e brake engaged?

If not it would be worth the risk for me while the car bakes in the Florida sun.

[94jedi]

Interested in switchable maps and manual shift lights! Would love to see what else you have planned as well BPMSport

[BP709]

1,4,5,6,7....definitely would like to see what you're working on!!!

[BPMSport]

Sorry for the slow reply everyone!

I've taken a tally from the feedback on this thread. What I've gathered so far is:

1 iii
2 ii
3 iiiiiii
4 iiiiiiiiiiii
5 iiiiiiiiii
6 iiiiiiii
7 iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

general/all iiiiiii

+add DME logging
+add startup Manual/D option

Originally Posted by cae93

Can it swap back to OEM map from the phone and look like it's not running modified ECU software? would be a valuable feature in the future in CA it seems....

Yes, you will be able to swap back to the stock, unmodified map at any time. The system will automatically back up your stock vehicle software. On top of that, it will also have the latest version of software available for programming if this is newer than what your car originally had - which will have no issue passing on an emissions compliant vehicle.

Originally Posted by tbuck

4, 5, 6 and 7 all sound good to me, Mike! Curious how you would implement the coolant temp in the cluster, like oil level is now sort of thing? Changing maps from the phone would be a game changer!

There are many different ways that we are thinking of implementing features. For example, the valet mode, we are actually thinking about a user programmable steering wheel combo.

For the coolant temp, it will likely be a button press or sequence to switch the oil temp gauge to display coolant temperature instead. Also looking at potential ways to display it in the center of the cluster digitally (coolant temp can actually be displayed on a stock car using a secret menu, the question is whether this menu can be activated externally).

Originally Posted by rwheels

Would starting a car, remotely, be feasible? During hot days, this would be awesome.

Unfortunately this is not something that we have planned. In order to start the car, there would need to be some sort of emulation that the key is present in the vehicle to pass the vehicles security algorithms, in which the complexity of integration would far exceed demand. Sorry!

Originally Posted by tdott

Map switching would be huge. Ability to have logs good enough for a tuner to gain enough info from would be great as the current solutions seem lacking.

Thanks for the input on this - I think that would be worthwhile to integrate as well. Added to our list!

As a side note - we are planning on including logic that actively looks for problematic vehicle components. As an example, we've collected a ton of data from the thousands of M3's we've pulled logs from. We've seen cars have issues in specific cylinders that are 10 times greater in one cylinder over another. This could be as a result of a clogged injector, bad plug, bad coil etc. The issue is that if the frequency of the issue doesn't occur X times in Y number of crankshaft revolutions, it can go unnoticed for years. For this reason we will be including a type of health check that will ensure you are alerted to anything out of the ordinary. It will also asses your fuel quality and provide useful data about previous engine operation. I know this is different from the live logging that you mention above, but thought I'd mention these plans regardless.

Originally Posted by Idfkman

Take my money if 4-7 become available. The ease of an app would be great.

Question re: #5 when neutral is engaged while the car is moving, is this the equivalent of holding the shift knob to the (left) neutral position while moving? Meaning when you release the paddles the car will go back into gear? Or will it remain in neutral forcing you to stop before being able to out the car back in gear?

Good question! The plan is to re-engage gear after paddle release. We will be performing some testing to see what the DCT control unit allows and doesn't allow us to do safely.

Originally Posted by PandaM3

I'd be interested in 7 if there is a 100% stock mode that passes California emissions testing since they are going to start scanning the ecu for aftermarket software this month.

I'd also be interested if there is a faster way to get emissions readiness to go green more quickly rather than going through several weeks of drive cycles.

On a stock car, I can get all of the monitors ready within 15 minutes or so, and two dead cold starts. If it's taking you several weeks, you need to drive the car differently to satisfy the testing criteria for the monitors to set. There will be a 100% stock mode - in fact, we've actually been thinking about some map switching ability without even using your phone

Originally Posted by drwankel

Hey Mike! Two questions with some of the proposed features

5) Engaging Neutral for DCT cars when both shift paddles are pulled simultaneously

-- I would love it if in combination with this we could put the car back in drive when its moving. The use case- although kind of silly, is I'd love to be able to quickly throw it in neutral and rev at someone, and then put it back in gear while moving. Something easy to do with a manual obviously, but as I'm sure we have all discovered the car needs to be stopped to put it back in gear.

6) Starting Mode Change for Traction control and DCT shift aggressiveness (such as starting car with MDM defaulting to on, Shift level 4 - any combination) / or M-Drive Defaults on

--For those of us with a GTS variant tune, i'd love to be able to start the car in manual mode again by default. As you know, the GTS tune variants starts in auto mode all the time.

--Lastly, would these features be a replacement DCT tune, or something that works with the DCT tune you already have? I have the dinan tune, and it works great, no real plan on changing it.

Loud and clear on #5!

I think we figured out changing all of the default modes and such in the engine software, but need to test this locally. Unfortunately my M3 is a 6MT so it doesn't help out much here. Two of my best friends have DCT M3's so I will snag one of their cars for testing. #6 should work with any existing transmission tune. If you have DINAN for your ECU tune, I think it would definitely be worth the switch! Can send you some links if you PM me.

Originally Posted by MaximusB

Is there any way to able to start the car in manual mode after DCT tune?

Good question - yes, this will fall under #6. I added a notation on this side for the shift mode start on top of the aggressiveness.

Originally Posted by slcook54

Mike, can we get confirmation on this? This is a big decision factor for me too

Answered above

Originally Posted by LakeSurfer

I interested,

I understand this is not part of the deal, as far as remote starting in a 6mt is concerned, isn't there a switch or something is the car knows it's in gear or neutral? I have no idea but if there was couldn't you write the code to not remote start the car if in gear? Or have the remote start linked to only start with the e brake engaged?

If not it would be worth the risk for me while the car bakes in the Florida sun.

The car does know whether it is in neutral or not, and although this function is not planned, if we ever did decide to offer it, it would definitely ensure that a 6MT car is not in gear, and has the parking brake applied.

Originally Posted by 94jedi

Interested in switchable maps and manual shift lights! Would love to see what else you have planned as well BPMSport

Thank you! Just to clarify a bit more on this. I installed a DCT cluster in my car as those have built in shift-lights from the factory and planned on utilizing those lights for manual cars. Obviously 99% of manual owners will not have a DCT cluster with factory shift LED's installed - so we will drum up some ideas here. We can always flash existing LEDs on the cluster. Will think about this a bit more.

Thanks everyone for your feedback - please feel free to let us know if anything else comes to mind as we will consider everything that is reasonable plausible. Sorry it took so long to reply!

[GORDON.M3]

Thank you Mike for keeping this platform alive!!!

[Redd]

Curious how you plan to achieve all these new features. Will it be purely in software? Or is there gonna be some type of piggyback or OBD box that provides comms with the smartphone app?

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by Redd

Curious how you plan to achieve all these new features. Will it be purely in software? Or is there gonna be some type of piggyback or OBD box that provides comms with the smartphone app?

Depending on the function it may be hardware, software, or a combination thereof.

[Hujan]

Love these ideas, Mike. I am down for just about all of them, especially a way to quickly change to an OE map for emissions purposes or a high-octane map for track days.