BUYER BEWARE of forum member "biglare"

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 11:27 AM

I paid 1,500 for a damaged E92 m3 Dinan Midpipe...

I purchased it from him in January of this year and it arrived damaged and unusable.

Seattle S65B40 · 04-22-2011, 11:35 AM

Sorry to hear. Thanks for informing us of this person. Inexcusable. Biglare if you read this speak the fock up and explain yourself.

Mjolnir · 04-22-2011, 11:38 AM

When did they start allowing "call out" threads in the General Forum?

Sorry if it happened the way you say it did, but I'm sure there are two sides to this story.

persian54 · 04-22-2011, 11:38 AM

there are plenty of scammers these days :/

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 11:41 AM

his dinan E92 m3 mid pipe arrived bent to crap and he refused to pay for the repairs or refund my money. plain and simple.

Mjolnir · 04-22-2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ltw 11

his dinan E92 m3 mid pipe arrived bent to crap and he refused to pay for the repairs or refund my money. plain and simple.

Just out of curiosity. How was it shipped? Who was responsible for insuring? What was the condition of the package it arrived in?

gthal · 04-22-2011, 12:00 PM

Isn't this a shipping company issue? If I were buying something and having it shipped, I would expect it is my issue the minute the shipping company had possession and would ensure I paid for shipping insurance. Anyway, not sure what the two of you negotiated so my comment may not be relevant. Whenever I have shipped something to a buyer through the forum, I have ALWAYS paid for insurance on the item just in case.

Now, if it was damaged before shipping, that's another issue altogether.

chungdae · 04-22-2011, 12:37 PM

If it's insured, talk to the shipping agency.

Mjolnir · 04-22-2011, 12:46 PM

OP is strangely silent when people start asking reasonable questions. Just saying.

biglare · 04-22-2011, 12:50 PM

Diego,

First of all the midpipe was not damaged when it was shipped to you and I have several people that can attest to that.

When you contacted me about it being damaged I was immediately willing to help you out to pay for the repairs. You said you were going to get estimates and then get back to me. With every PM you sent I was always willing to help you out in my responses.

You sent me a PM on 4/21 saying that you got it repaired and you waited one day until you start posting this kind if thread? Not cool Diego.

I am busy like you and several others and do not check my PM's everyday.

Again, I am sorry the midpipe was damaged in shipping but you never told me to file a claim with the shipping company either.

All of this being said I am still and have always been willing to help you out with the repairs. Please post up pictures of the repair receipt and the shipping receipt and I will help you out as I said from day one!!!

Thank You,

Larry

Prince_of_Persia · 04-22-2011, 01:11 PM

woow, something that could be solved that easily had to be brought up here?

mazda3ndp · 04-22-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince_of_Persia

woow, something that could be solved that easily had to be brought up here?

in my experience it takes a thread like this to see any action from the seller. its unfortunate...

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 01:25 PM

This has been a very frustrating and expensive experience since January.

The seller has just contacted me and agreed to settle this and pay the repair cost of the damaged Dinan midpipe.

We evidently had a communication error.

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 01:36 PM

Larry,

Wait a second......youre now telling me that the midpipe was not damaged when you shipped it to me? Are you calling me a liar Larry?

Why didnt you address this with me on the phone a few minutes ago????

WHO can attest that the pipe wasnt damaged when it arrived to my home when I'm the only one who saw it at my home.

Post the PM that said I had it repaired. That is flat out lie!

I will post the contact info of the fabrication shop that has the pipe in there shop right now in it's original condition when I received it- BENT.

I told you not to file a claim until I could get an estimation on repair costs.

I sent it to Dinan and one other shop and then the local shop where it is at now. I now have a repair quote and I havent heard from you and you havent been responding to my PM's yet, although you have posted on this board in the meantime. Not cool Larry.

It is your responsibility as the seller to make sure the part arrives to the buyer in the condition you stated it was in at the time of purchase.

Is this not true?

This is all bullshit Larry.

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Originally Posted by biglare

First of all the midpipe was not damaged when it was shipped to you and I have several people that can attest to that.

When you contacted me about it being damaged I was immediately willing to help you out to pay for the repairs. You said you were going to get estimates and then get back to me. With every PM you sent I was always willing to help you out in my responses.

You sent me a PM on 4/21 saying that you got it repaired and you waited one day until you start posting this kind if thread? Not cool Diego.

I am busy like you and several others and do not check my PM's everyday.

Again, I am sorry the midpipe was damaged in shipping but you never told me to file a claim with the shipping company either.

All of this being said I am still and have always been willing to help you out with the repairs. Please post up pictures of the repair receipt and the shipping receipt and I will help you out as I said from day one!!!

Thank You,

Larry

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

You think?

haha! funny, yes, definitely.

This is f'ing bullshite. I'm not going to raise my bloodpressure over this anymore.

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mazda3ndp

in my experience it takes a thread like this to see any action from the seller. its unfortunate...

yea, I agree. I hate negativity especially when dealing with a hobby thats supposed to be fun.

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

So it got damaged during shipping? I'm assuming this was insured, considering the price tag of the item.

Sounds to me you have to complain to the shipping company. Also, I'd watch my language...

it was insured for 500 and I have had an issue with getting the mid pipe returned from a shop that wanted to repair it. They wanted to charge about 550 for shipping it back to me.

Mjolnir · 04-22-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ltw 11

Larry,

Wait a second......youre now telling me that the midpipe was not damaged when you shipped it to me? Are you calling me a liar Larry?

How does saying it was not damaged when it was shipped make you a liar? Is it possible it was damaged in transit by some goon at UPS?

ltw 11 · 04-22-2011, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mjolnir

How does saying it was not damaged when it was shipped make you a liar? Is it possible it was damaged in transit by some goon at UPS?

The pipe was damaged by UPS.

biglare · 04-22-2011, 02:37 PM

Diego, I was just stating that the midpipe was not damaged when it was shipped to you. It was damaged in shipping. I'm not calling you a liar.

All we discussed on the Phone still stands!

Please call me if you have any questions and I look forward to resolving this issue next week.

Thanks!

Larry

biglare · 04-22-2011, 02:40 PM

Diego,

I also made that initial reply in the thread before we spoke on the phone!

Again, I look forward to resolving this issue next week.

geneatals · 04-22-2011, 02:41 PM

here's the FS thread in question: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=455487

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ltw 11 Private 7 Rep 83 Posts Drives: E92 M3 - 997 GT3 RS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	BUYER BEWARE of forum member "biglare" I paid 1,500 for a damaged E92 m3 Dinan Midpipe... I purchased it from him in January of this year and it arrived damaged and unusable. __________________ ... Last edited by ltw 11; 04-22-2011 at 02:10 PM..
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Seattle S65B40 Major 213 Rep 1,395 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Sorry to hear. Thanks for informing us of this person. Inexcusable. Biglare if you read this speak the fock up and explain yourself. __________________ Club 6MT 2008 E92 M3 6MT, AW/Blk Ext., brushed aluminum 2006 E46 M3 ZCP 6MT Carbon blk/blk(sold) 2001 E46 325Xi 5MT Jet Blk/Blk (sold)
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ltw 11 Private 7 Rep 83 Posts Drives: E92 M3 - 997 GT3 RS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	his dinan E92 m3 mid pipe arrived bent to crap and he refused to pay for the repairs or refund my money. plain and simple. __________________ ...
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gthal Major General 1904 Rep 5,678 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Isn't this a shipping company issue? If I were buying something and having it shipped, I would expect it is my issue the minute the shipping company had possession and would ensure I paid for shipping insurance. Anyway, not sure what the two of you negotiated so my comment may not be relevant. Whenever I have shipped something to a buyer through the forum, I have ALWAYS paid for insurance on the item just in case. Now, if it was damaged before shipping, that's another issue altogether. __________________ 2020 X3 M40i \| Black \| Current DD 2020 C8 Corvette \| Z51 \| Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 \| Long Beach Blue \| 6MT 2015 M4 \| Austin Yellow \| DCT 2012 MB C63AMG \| 2011 E92 M3 \| 2010 E92 M3
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biglare Bulldog 482 Rep 3,355 Posts Drives: BMW & Porsche Join Date: May 2008 Location: ? iTrader: (3)	Diego, First of all the midpipe was not damaged when it was shipped to you and I have several people that can attest to that. When you contacted me about it being damaged I was immediately willing to help you out to pay for the repairs. You said you were going to get estimates and then get back to me. With every PM you sent I was always willing to help you out in my responses. You sent me a PM on 4/21 saying that you got it repaired and you waited one day until you start posting this kind if thread? Not cool Diego. I am busy like you and several others and do not check my PM's everyday. Again, I am sorry the midpipe was damaged in shipping but you never told me to file a claim with the shipping company either. All of this being said I am still and have always been willing to help you out with the repairs. Please post up pictures of the repair receipt and the shipping receipt and I will help you out as I said from day one!!! Thank You, Larry __________________ Prev: Individual F80 M3 - Fjord Blue/Silverstone(interior) \| Fashion Grey(exterior) GTS
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ltw 11 Private 7 Rep 83 Posts Drives: E92 M3 - 997 GT3 RS Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	This has been a very frustrating and expensive experience since January. The seller has just contacted me and agreed to settle this and pay the repair cost of the damaged Dinan midpipe. We evidently had a communication error. __________________ ...
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biglare Bulldog 482 Rep 3,355 Posts Drives: BMW & Porsche Join Date: May 2008 Location: ? iTrader: (3)	Diego, I was just stating that the midpipe was not damaged when it was shipped to you. It was damaged in shipping. I'm not calling you a liar. All we discussed on the Phone still stands! Please call me if you have any questions and I look forward to resolving this issue next week. Thanks! Larry __________________ Prev: Individual F80 M3 - Fjord Blue/Silverstone(interior) \| Fashion Grey(exterior) GTS
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biglare Bulldog 482 Rep 3,355 Posts Drives: BMW & Porsche Join Date: May 2008 Location: ? iTrader: (3)	Diego, I also made that initial reply in the thread before we spoke on the phone! Again, I look forward to resolving this issue next week. __________________ Prev: Individual F80 M3 - Fjord Blue/Silverstone(interior) \| Fashion Grey(exterior) GTS
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