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07-07-2020, 04:44 PM | #45 | |
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As dparm mentioned, there are many scenarios where MDM or similar DSC systems will come into play that would inspire driver confidence compared to having the systems fully off. Particularly where lack of proper technique comes into play. In dogbones analysis of MDM he also noted that it's intervening without the light on the dash flickering. MDM is constantly applying small amounts of brake pressure and at times power cuts to keep the car under control while exhibiting small or minimal intervention. The whole nature of these types of systems is to inspire confidence and keep the car under control (which also enhances confidence) when driving at or past the limit. Next time you have a wet track day do a session with MDM on and halfway through switch everything off - I bet you'll feel more confident in the car pushing around a wet track with MDM on then with everything off.. It might not be faster but you can be soooo much more aggressive knowing the systems are there to save you. |
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07-07-2020, 04:45 PM | #46 | |
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I may try to come back for a NASA event at HPR later this year as this is a perfect TT3 car and I'd like to see how close I can get to (my) lap record for the class. I suspect with the repave and newer curbing I could get real close.
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07-07-2020, 05:33 PM | #48 | |
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Often times systems like MDM result in the formation of bad habits when a driver becomes overly reliant on the systems. The goal is to avoid this. If you want to drive with MDM on that's fine, but you need to understand what it's doing for you. |
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07-07-2020, 05:39 PM | #49 | |
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The whole point is for them to learn how to drive. It's easy to correct when driving slow but later on it becomes harder and harder. The objective is not time X at the track. The objective is to learn how to drive. I recall a student with a 997.2 GT3. He had a set of DHs he wanted to run. I told him no problem, but I was not getting into the car if he ran those tires. I was happy to sign him off to Solo. |
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07-07-2020, 05:53 PM | #50 | |
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The whole point of a 'performance DSC' setting like MDM is to inspire confidence for the beginner or intermediate driver. It allows poor technique or instances of poor technique to prevent things from going to shit. It's there as a safety feature - and a safety net inspires confidence. At a certain point MDM becomes too intrusive and actually prevents you from going faster. But by the time you're at that point you're likely a capable enough driver to drive competently with the systems fully off and benefit from it. Last edited by tsk94; 07-07-2020 at 06:58 PM.. |
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07-30-2020, 04:41 AM | #51 |
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Thanks for posting the story/lessons learned. I fly F-18s for a living and one of the most important qualities we look for in pilots is someone that can freely admit their mistakes without blaming something or someone else, learn from it, and move on. I'm in the process of taking my dual use daily/track M3 up a few pegs with a bit more power, better brakes and a new wheel/tire setup and this is a good look at why I need to keep my expectations in check and avoid chasing an arbitrary lap time!
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