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      12-03-2019, 01:38 PM   #1
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Comparison: E92 M3 vs. B8.5 RS5

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Have been reading a lot on this forum for many years. Decided to make an account so i could pose a question to all of you. I ALSO KNOW that this topic has been discussed on this very forum and on youtube etc since time Immemorial. I am asking you to help me make a decision.

A little background: I come from a long line of BImmers, e46m3 (2 of them) a few daily e90's and currently daily a e90 328xi. With that said I am asking you guys your opinion on the comparison of these two cars. I have saved enough money to own one in the near future and am currently comparing a 2011 e92 m3 comp package, white on red interior. Approx 100 000km for $27k ish. OTOH 2013 Audi rs5 white, bang olufsen all the bits etc.. approx 32k

I know the weak points of both cars and i would address them as soon as i purchase the car (e92, rod bearings) (rs5, carbon buildup)

I Know this is a lengthy first post and understand that i am on an m3 forum. I have driven many e90 m3's hwoever have not driven the RS5.

Disclaimer: I NEVER track my cars, they would be used occasionally and i drive pretty reserved at this point in my life. what would you guys say are the plus pooints of each platform and from a realistic standpoint convince me to get the e92.

thanks in advance . Cheers
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      12-03-2019, 03:08 PM   #2
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My neighbor had an RS5. Nice interior. AWD. The E92 weighs a little less, handles better and is slightly faster above about 40 mph. Years ago one of the car magazines tested both, but I forget which magazine.
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      12-03-2019, 03:19 PM   #3
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I've driven rs5 and now own e92 m3. RS5 is more of a GT car that's nice to cruise in. M3's handling feels more direct and connected. Not a bad car but M3 is hands down more fun to drive IMO.
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      12-07-2019, 11:51 PM   #4
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I was in the market for the RS5 about 5 years ago and while I did my research I ended up with an E90M3. If you don't need AWD, live in a warmer climate and want a lighter more lively car to drive the M3 is it.
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      12-08-2019, 12:39 AM   #5
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https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/
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      12-08-2019, 01:04 AM   #7
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Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.
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      12-27-2019, 12:36 AM   #8
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Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.
This. I drove both, chose M3 because it felt a little faster, more responsive, but I did really like the RS5. Now I'm selling the M3 because it's not working for me as a DD with cold, wet climate with occasional snow and wish I had gone with the RS5.
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      12-27-2019, 07:50 AM   #9
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I have been driving mine in NH for the past 9 winters. I put snows on the stock wheels and bought lighter wider wheels for wider summer tires. Iíd rather have a twin turbo V8 with AWD like an E63 AMG or the new M5 or twin turbo flat 6 like a newer 911 Turbo, but the E90 M3 gets me where I need to go and it was paid for long ago.
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      12-27-2019, 01:05 PM   #10
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I've owned both. 5 years ago I had an e92 6spd and loved it. I had it for about a year but ended up selling it due to using the funds for a property purchase. It was a great daily driver - very comfortable, big trunk, and with snow tires it was actually really good in the winter.

About a year later when it came time to buy another "fun" car I went for an Audi S5 v8 with 6spd manual. That was also a great and fun car, although definitely more of a touring car. I liked it enough that I traded it in on an RS5, which honestly was a huge mistake. I loved that car for all of about a week. It's one of those cars that ticks all the right boxes on paper, but in real life was underwhelming. It was great to look at, but absolutely soulless and boring to drive. It's suspension was also very harsh - much more harsh than the M3. Also check out the maintenance costs - on top of the carbon build up, the DSG tranny also needs service constantly.

Fast forward a few years and I now have a dedicated daily driver (Tesla Model S P85D) but I'm considering picking up a nice e9x 6spd as a weekend car, mostly because it's really the most fun in a reasonable price range.
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This sums up the problem with Front engine Audi's -

and the Audi arrives with the immediate disadvantage of having all eight of its cylinders mounted completely forward of the front axle line. That means the RS5 has an imbalance in its 4000-pound weight (56.3 percent front, 43.7 rear) thatís a recipe for understeer.
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      12-30-2019, 03:49 PM   #12
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I took an rs5 out for an extended test drive while I was shopping for what became my m3.

Engine pulled hard and felt torquey. Hard to really say for sure, but it felt slightly faster than my m3. Sounded nice too - less induction noise but more exhaust burble. The DSG, which is a unit that is unique to the RS model, shifted seamlessly and was flawless. A bit boring as a result, but manual vs stick shift is a personal choice.

It did feel a size or 2 bigger than an e92, while also feeling more cramped on the inside, especially the back seat. Together with more body roll, noticeably heavier and less nimble feel, it felt like more of a GT than a sports car. The grip was incredible though.

Overall an excellent and charismatic car (due to the engine), that would easily make a great daily. Had it been available with a manual, I might have entertained buying it, but I still think Iíd take an m3 DCT over it.
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      12-30-2019, 05:38 PM   #13
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RS5 is a bit more of a GT car. Comfortable and fast, but it's going to feel heavy and sloppy. Still a pretty nice car that would be great for driving around town and maybe some spirited backroad outings.
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      12-31-2019, 01:09 PM   #14
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I had this dilemma a couple months ago. Thought about switching my two car setup (e92 m3 and sentra) for just an RS5. I went and drove one and ended up sticking with the m3. The RS5 sounds sweet on paper, and it looks/feels cool. But its a total mismatch of parts, high revving low torque v8 in a heavy car that handles meh and feels somewhat numb. It either needed a v8 with more grunt, or a more nimble chassis for the 4.2.

I'd go for like an s6 or s5 honestly if you want a comfy while sporty daily. Save your money (or get a nicer/newer car for the money).
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But if you really want to stick to RS5 vs M3 go with the M3. It's practically as comfortable as the rs5 for daily use. Most of all, the MASSIVE catalog of online support for this platform on the forums.

Go search for DIY's and fixes on the RS5, theres like 3 guys that actually contribute on the forum. I'd rather have the strong support/aftermarket the e9x has
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Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.
This. I drove both, chose M3 because it felt a little faster, more responsive, but I did really like the RS5. Now I'm selling the M3 because it's not working for me as a DD with cold, wet climate with occasional snow and wish I had gone with the RS5.
Where does it fall down weather wise?
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Depends on climate and use.
If you just commute or drive casually, or live in a cold/rainy area, RS5 sounds like a better fit.
If your roads/use are a little more fun, dry area, etc, the M3 is a little more fun/engaging.
This. I drove both, chose M3 because it felt a little faster, more responsive, but I did really like the RS5. Now I'm selling the M3 because it's not working for me as a DD with cold, wet climate with occasional snow and wish I had gone with the RS5.
Where does it fall down weather wise?
Nothing unexpected, just RWD in wet and snowy hills is no good IMO. Not a big deal if you live in a dry climate or have another car for bad weather but our roads here are wet 50% of the year, not exaggerating, and I get snow occasionally and live up a big hill. So yeah I'm fully AWD camp now.
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Based on your location and they way you drive, I would say the RS5 is for you.
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Not sure about some, but driving Canadian winters, I find no real compromise driving balanced RWD cars with good snow tires vs 4wd with snow tires.

Iíve had an x5 and a WRX STI, and Outside of 1-2 exceptional days per year, thereís never any issue driving RWD with snow tires safety wise. Indeed, the lower overall adhesion in winter with snow tires makes the car more playful
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Not sure about some, but driving Canadian winters, I find no real compromise driving balanced RWD cars with good snow tires vs 4wd with snow tires.

I’ve had an x5 and a WRX STI, and Outside of 1-2 exceptional days per year, there’s never any issue driving RWD with snow tires safety wise. Indeed, the lower overall adhesion in winter with snow tires makes the car more playful
agreed. with winter tires, a balanced RWD like the M3 is perfectly fine on ice or light snow. nowhere near as good as my former evo IX, however...that car was an absolute beast in the snow, even with all season tires.
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