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Tank capacity is 16.6 US Galons that equals 62.84 Litre so let us assume you filled 3/4 of the remaining tank that be around 47.5 Litre if you paid $160.00 for that fill up then they charged you $3.40 / Litre. $3.40 US = € 2.60 Euro ... a bit high for gas wherever you tanked they screwed you when the average gas price in Europe is € 1.397 to € 1.459 Euro. Where did you tank and are you sure your tank was not empty?
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Highway driving speed limit 100 KM/Hr (62 Miles/Hr). Traveling around 115 KM to 120 KM (71 to 75 MPH) with the traffic flow ... flat highway no hills. At that speed and the occasional overtaking of 18 wheelers I average the quoted RPM range and fuel consumption.
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Rolf, I think your figures for German gas are off for super premium, or at least off from what they were when we were there. I'm thinking I paid in the ballpark of € 1.70. Diesel might have been close to what you were quoting, but super premium (98 octane) sure wasn't.
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My iDrive is reading 6.8 MPG right now and I'm fine with that.
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An M3 with Vette gearing (say, 1500-1600 rpm at cruise) would be a pig out on the highway - but it would get a good deal better mileage. BMW has been saying since the eighties that to drive for best mileage, use max throttle and minimum rpm through the gears. The M3 would get best highway mileage if you had to use full throttle just to keep it going - but of course it would be more or less undriveable because you'd have to downshift for every hill or any puff of headwind. Quote:
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Keep in mind, BMW isn't just tuning the M3's gearing for the US, a fact that seems to escape some here. At typical US highway speeds, 7th may not be as usable, but I recall it being fairly usable at typical autobahn speeds, at least in the unlimited sections.
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The six speed M3 won't blow you away in top gear - but it'll certainly blow a Grand Sport Vette away - or even a Z06. They don't get moving in sixth until somewhere near 100. Edit: Didn't test the auto for top-gear acceleration because it'll kick down right smartly, if memory serves. Last edited by bruce.augenstein@comcast.; 12-15-2011 at 03:41 PM.. |
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I mean no final gear with an engine that makes its power at 7k rpms is going to give you a punch necessarily. |
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It just reenforces my decision last month to not do the ED next year and take the train ... glad I found my 2012 M3 at a local dealership (2 hour drive from my house) last month.
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But...anyone buying an M3 should not be surprised about the poor fuel economy. But 6.8 MPG? You're an ozone hater!
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I'm suspecting while it didn't help in the US with the current (2011) gas regs, it is helping in other countries, and it's easier to just make it standard for all M3s rather than build a specific US that doesn't include it. I know some have mentioned that future EPA tests will start accounting for this feature, so maybe it will help in 2012 tests (where overall BMW fleet averages will need to go up), and BMW decided to just start including it while making other changes.
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So I hope future models come up with A/C that is not belt driven.
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taller 7th wouldn't help much. I have a 6MT and cruising at legal hwy speeds I'm already at 2100-2300 rpms, anything below 2000 rpm and the car will be easy to stall in case of a sudden slow down. also changing all gears ratios will have to be considered when changing 1 gear, so you may be changing the acceleration characteristic of the car when you do this.
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Its kind of a win-win to have start/stop features as long as it is able to be turned off like it is. For those who want to cut down a few gallons of gas a year than they can have at it. The company gets to lower their fleet mpg (however barely) and everyone is happy. Mine is off and never will be on. Tried it the other day again and was horrible. Light turned green and had to wait for the fucking engine to re-start! stupid with dct.
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Interesting how they know americans would not tolerate that! We like maximum gas guzzlage |
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I guess I feel like the resident stop/start apologist. I find it works rather well with DCT, and it does save some gas. YMMV.
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