1/4 mile time for ESS VT1-535

Tourbillon · 08-03-2010, 10:07 PM

I'm considering putting an order in for a new M3 and the first thing I want to do is supercharge it after the break in. I've always been a fan of the M3. HOWEVER, I'll be completely honest throughout this post. I've seen videos of JB3 335i's kill a stock M3 and there is a video out there of a tuned C63 being quicker than a supercharged M3. Then again I've seen a video of a supercharged M3 being quicker than a highly modified GTR.

Apparently JB3 335i's can run high 11's if I'm not mistaken. How would a ESS VT1-535 compare? As amazing of a machine the M3 may be and with all due respect, it wouldn't make sense to me to spend 72k plus another 10k for a stage 1 supercharger, only to be slower than a 335i who bought his car and tuned it at a fraction of the price.

Yes, I currently drive an AMG. No, straight line performance isn't my main priority. With the M3 being so well balanced, especially around a track, it's the perfect vehicle to take to next level and be quick in a straight line and around a track.

Please serious reply's only!

GhostyM · 08-04-2010, 04:20 AM

If I were you, and I wanted that power your looking for;

I would just go for a Stage 2+ Gintani Setup.

That would cure your want for the power.
Stage 1 is not that fast to be honest. It can be comparable with a freak stock+boltons M3 (DCT). What I mean there, a 6MT VT1 vs a DCT all boltons+factory freak would be a good race.

Kyoshi71 · 08-04-2010, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by amg63

I'm considering putting an order in for a new M3 and the first thing I want to do is supercharge it after the break in. I've always been a fan of the M3. HOWEVER, I'll be completely honest throughout this post. I've seen videos of JB3 335i's kill a stock M3 and there is a video out there of a tuned C63 being quicker than a supercharged M3. Then again I've seen a video of a supercharged M3 being quicker than a highly modified GTR.

Apparently JB3 335i's can run high 11's if I'm not mistaken. How would a ESS VT1-535 compare? As amazing of a machine the M3 may be and with all due respect, it wouldn't make sense to me to spend 72k plus another 10k for a stage 1 supercharger, only to be slower than a 335i who bought his car and tuned it at a fraction of the price.

Yes, I currently drive an AMG. No, straight line performance isn't my main priority. With the M3 being so well balanced, especially around a track, it's the perfect vehicle to take to next level and be quick in a straight line and around a track.

Please serious reply's only!

You reference tons of videos which can't always be believed.
I once saw a video of a guy with a 14" dong. Oh, sorry...you said serious replies only.

mikewads · 08-04-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipped B6

Stage 1 is not that fast to be honest. It can be comparable with a freak stock+boltons M3 (DCT)

Ok, now lets get some real data from an actual owner of the the VT1 kit. I also have the Akrapovic full exhaust.

The below screen shot is the results of my car running from 60 -130mph on just the supercharger and exhaust. 9.06 seconds!

Please show me a bolt on DCT that comes even close to that.

One of the fastest, if not the fastest bolt on DCT car that I know of ran a best of 10.71.

niqui · 08-04-2010, 02:20 PM

I don't think this is the best car choice for you given your goals and desires. A vette, cts-v, or amg would be much better suited in my opinion.

Tourbillon · 08-04-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipped B6

If I were you, and I wanted that power your looking for;

I would just go for a Stage 2+ Gintani Setup.

That would cure your want for the power.
Stage 1 is not that fast to be honest. It can be comparable with a freak stock+boltons M3 (DCT). What I mean there, a 6MT VT1 vs a DCT all boltons+factory freak would be a good race.

The price of that setup plus the car, I'm looking at around 87k before installation. I might as well wait for the upcoming M5, which I'm sure will be quicker with a ecu tune.

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

You reference tons of videos which can't always be believed.
I once saw a video of a guy with a 14" dong. Oh, sorry...you said serious replies only.

That works both ways. You could say the same about videos with the M3 coming out ahead vs the competition. Either way, they still give you a good idea of what to expect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikewads

Ok, now lets get some real data from an actual owner of the the VT1 kit. I also have the Akrapovic full exhaust.

The below screen shot is the results of my car running from 60 -130mph on just the supercharger and exhaust. 9.06 seconds!

Please show me a bolt on DCT that comes even close to that.

One of the fastest, if not the fastest bolt on DCT car that I know of ran a best of 10.71.

I have seen the 60-130mph numbers of supercharged M3's. I remember it being quicker than most exotics. BUT, what do those numbers translate to in the 1/4 mile?

Tourbillon · 08-04-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by niqui

I don't think this is the best car choice for you given your goals and desires. A vette, cts-v, or amg would be much better suited in my opinion.

That may be the unfortunate truth. There is just something about the M..

SUB-ZERO · 08-04-2010, 02:30 PM

If fast 1/4mi times is your ultimate goal, then the m3 may not be the best choice for you. The m3 is more of a backroad/track car as opposed to a 1/4mi muscle car. While the m3 may put down a respectable 1/4mi time, it definitely is not its strongest point.

You can probably pickup a new Mustang and S/C for less money.

Also, a Z06 may be a good choice.

-SZ

M3x2 · 08-04-2010, 02:56 PM

if drag racing is your interest, look elsewhere. I ditched an E63 AMG for the E90 M3, sacrificing raw power and 1/4 mi time for handling and feel. If you want to drag, buy a muscle car. Just sayin/. +1 for vette.

m33 · 08-04-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-ZERO

If fast 1/4mi times is your ultimate goal, then the m3 may not be the best choice for you. The m3 is more of a backroad/track car as opposed to a 1/4mi muscle car. While the m3 may put down a respectable 1/4mi time, it definitely is not its strongest point.

You can probably pickup a new Mustang and S/C for less money.

Also, a Z06 may be a good choice.

-SZ

i agree

Bob MG · 08-04-2010, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

I once saw a video of a guy with a 14" dong. Oh, sorry...you said serious replies only.

Yes that was me

You saw my movie Bruno when I swing it around?

OP you want a VT2 600/625 setup

Can't go wrong with 530-580whp

E90///M3` · 08-04-2010, 11:43 PM

Personally as a VT1 owner myself... I don't know of a full bolt-ons E9xM3 that can keep up with a SC one.

as for your quarter mile interests... i'm practically in the same boat. i wouldn't mind seeing what it can do quarter mile but i just don't have that time right now. With the proper driver, i don't think there should be a problem with mid 11's. but that's just a guess

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Meff · 08-05-2010, 12:30 AM

Why judge the car by such a narrow parameter?

The 1/4 mile is where not it's strongest attribute to be sure. But that's kind of like marrying a supermodel to have her cook for you. Sure she can do it, but there's a lot more she can do for you that will put the neighbourhood girls to shame!

If you want a cook - get a cook, they're a dime a dozen

Bob MG · 08-05-2010, 01:57 AM

A friend did a 11,9 quarter mile 122 MPH trap in a DCT VT2 575, however it was at 4000 ft and the boost was only 5lbs, which is close to a VT 1 535s 4,5lbs boost

This time at sea level would have been in low 11's

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413994

Kartelli · 08-07-2010, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Meff

Why judge the car by such a narrow parameter?

The 1/4 mile is where not it's strongest attribute to be sure. But that's kind of like marrying a supermodel to have her cook for you. Sure she can do it, but there's a lot more she can do for you that will put the neighbourhood girls to shame!

If you want a cook - get a cook, they're a dime a dozen

just awesome

dhoggm3 · 08-08-2010, 07:19 AM

Turbo lag? Turning left or right? Grenade factor?

MspiredM3 · 08-09-2010, 03:20 PM

If you go with a supercharger with the e9x, definitely go with a Gintani setup as they have shown to be faster than the competition.

dlbrooks18 · 08-09-2010, 03:39 PM

one of the fastest supercharged E9X M's is running like 11.4 at 130+mph with Gintani setup.. and the fastest 335's are now using meth + nitrous and running low 11's and 120-130mph traps.. both setups easily capable of 7 sec 60-130mph runs...

powertrip · 08-10-2010, 01:37 AM

Really guys? Let this ESS vs Gintani bullshit go

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Originally Posted by LV-E92M3

Man! you are so funny.

m33 · 08-10-2010, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

Really guys? Let this ESS vs Gintani bullshit go

.

I totally agree with you

topic doesn't state 1/4 time with Gintani xxx kit

if the OP was looking for the Biggest HP kit he wouldnt have referred to the VT1 535 kit

...

In all fairness the thread should be respected and not Violated !!

MspiredM3 · 08-10-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m33

Man you 2 are gay

Learn to speak without insulting people. It MIGHT make you look classy for once

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

I totally agree with you

topic doesn't state 1/4 time with Gintani xxx kit

if the OP was looking for the Biggest HP kit he wouldnt have referred to the VT1 535 kit

...

In all fairness the thread should be respected and not Violated !!

The OP is obviously someone that is searching for a lot of power and to be faster than some other fast cars. So, as MY OPINION I think he should go with the more powerful option. Stop acting like I came in here and bashed ESS.

m33 · 08-10-2010, 12:42 PM

Dude ...... Please , don't insult my intelligence and stop making yourself look like a fool , like I said before if he was looking for the most power he obviously wouldn't have referred to the VT1 kit and personaly I could care less which kit he chooses but don't try wiping shit away cause it still stinks !
I call this undercurve bashing .....

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Tourbillon Second Lieutenant 24 Rep 232 Posts Drives: '14 S550, '13 4S, '11 E550 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	1/4 mile time for ESS VT1-535 I'm considering putting an order in for a new M3 and the first thing I want to do is supercharge it after the break in. I've always been a fan of the M3. HOWEVER, I'll be completely honest throughout this post. I've seen videos of JB3 335i's kill a stock M3 and there is a video out there of a tuned C63 being quicker than a supercharged M3. Then again I've seen a video of a supercharged M3 being quicker than a highly modified GTR. Apparently JB3 335i's can run high 11's if I'm not mistaken. How would a ESS VT1-535 compare? As amazing of a machine the M3 may be and with all due respect, it wouldn't make sense to me to spend 72k plus another 10k for a stage 1 supercharger, only to be slower than a 335i who bought his car and tuned it at a fraction of the price. Yes, I currently drive an AMG. No, straight line performance isn't my main priority. With the M3 being so well balanced, especially around a track, it's the perfect vehicle to take to next level and be quick in a straight line and around a track. Please serious reply's only!
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GhostyM Major 539 Rep 1,463 Posts Drives: plenty Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	If I were you, and I wanted that power your looking for; I would just go for a Stage 2+ Gintani Setup. That would cure your want for the power. Stage 1 is not that fast to be honest. It can be comparable with a freak stock+boltons M3 (DCT). What I mean there, a 6MT VT1 vs a DCT all boltons+factory freak would be a good race.
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SUB-ZERO Lieutenant Colonel 294 Rep 1,709 Posts Drives: 2018 M2 + Spur, DB11, F12, X5 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: VA iTrader: (0)	If fast 1/4mi times is your ultimate goal, then the m3 may not be the best choice for you. The m3 is more of a backroad/track car as opposed to a 1/4mi muscle car. While the m3 may put down a respectable 1/4mi time, it definitely is not its strongest point. You can probably pickup a new Mustang and S/C for less money. Also, a Z06 may be a good choice. -SZ
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E90///M3` Major General 141 Rep 5,264 Posts Drives: 2008 E90M3 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Daly City -4- Work///Camarillo is Home iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW E90 M3 [7.60]	Personally as a VT1 owner myself... I don't know of a full bolt-ons E9xM3 that can keep up with a SC one. as for your quarter mile interests... i'm practically in the same boat. i wouldn't mind seeing what it can do quarter mile but i just don't have that time right now. With the proper driver, i don't think there should be a problem with mid 11's. but that's just a guess . __________________ - Jason P :Have: 08 E90M3, Varis VRS Front Lip, LS3, ESS Supercharger, Arqray Exhaust, Neez Wheels :Want: VRS Carbon GT Wing & Cooling Bonnet, LCI Taillights :Videos: EnvyRidesTV, GPR 1, GPR 2, GPR 3, ///MFEST
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Meff smiling amid the chaos... 27 Rep 409 Posts Drives: Erratically Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Cascadia iTrader: (0)	Why judge the car by such a narrow parameter? The 1/4 mile is where not it's strongest attribute to be sure. But that's kind of like marrying a supermodel to have her cook for you. Sure she can do it, but there's a lot more she can do for you that will put the neighbourhood girls to shame! If you want a cook - get a cook, they're a dime a dozen
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Bob MG Moderating 418 Rep 2,047 Posts Drives: like a muppet Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Dubai iTrader: (0)	A friend did a 11,9 quarter mile 122 MPH trap in a DCT VT2 575, however it was at 4000 ft and the boost was only 5lbs, which is close to a VT 1 535s 4,5lbs boost This time at sea level would have been in low 11's http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413994
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MspiredM3 Private First Class 12 Rep 176 Posts Drives: Turbo e46 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Encino, CA iTrader: (0)	If you go with a supercharger with the e9x, definitely go with a Gintani setup as they have shown to be faster than the competition.
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dlbrooks18 Brigadier General 161 Rep 3,736 Posts Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (2)	one of the fastest supercharged E9X M's is running like 11.4 at 130+mph with Gintani setup.. and the fastest 335's are now using meth + nitrous and running low 11's and 120-130mph traps.. both setups easily capable of 7 sec 60-130mph runs... __________________ 2008 E90 335 Last edited by dlbrooks18; 08-09-2010 at 03:44 PM..
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m33 Banned 114 Rep 2,682 Posts Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT iTrader: (5)	Dude ...... Please , don't insult my intelligence and stop making yourself look like a fool , like I said before if he was looking for the most power he obviously wouldn't have referred to the VT1 kit and personaly I could care less which kit he chooses but don't try wiping shit away cause it still stinks ! I call this undercurve bashing .....
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