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Nobody is trying to insult you or insult the driver in the vid, it is just factual that a 2:51 is nowhere close to F8X M4 capabilities. For reference, a typical spec miata time at VIR is roughly 7-8 seconds slower than a near stock E9X M3 in the hands of a very fast driver (2:20 and 2:13 ish). |
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what do you think about the gts? i guess its another m3/4 or m2 for me next. still enjoying my e90 for now |
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It is great until you push it hard. No opinion about the gts because I haven't driven it, nor have a driven a 981 on track, so it may be better now. But early 987's understeered and weren't too good on track with stock suspension at least. We own the best street/track car for under $50k IMO (used obviously).
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I drive flat out at all times.
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and your conflating stock, with stripped out, caged out. I too expected this thing to be on par with or faster than the E9X M3s out of the gate, at road america, but it seems it's right at modded 335I times, which is what the car virtually is, in the first place. I'm actually at the track quite often, and in fact will be at Road America this weekend with the Northwoods Shelby Club. PM me whenever you're in the midwest. I would love to meet up with you at the track. I got two 400+hp cars, and I want to see what you can "shave off" from my lap times. Talk is cheap, and reading this thread, you'll get the impression that everyone is a pro racer on here, when in fact no one who has posted thus far can even beat John Mcelroy's time in a stock New M3.
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You're invited too. Come out for an HPDE. I've met several members on here, and have done track days together. They don't post like the two of you though, which is why I'm curious to see you guys in person. The last guy who posted like the two of you, whom I met in person ended up crashing his car.
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I'm not talking trash about you or the dude in the vid, except to the extent that you're crazy if you think the fastest a f8x can do RA is 2:51 lol. I don't understand how you are the only person that believes otherwise. There is zero doubt that several posters in this thread could do several seconds quicker than that, but the point of this whole discussion has just been against the dramatic "flat-out" description by the poster of the vid and yourself.
Just let it go. There is a zero percent chance that car is being driven at the limit, which is fine but for the description. |
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^ Someone else gets it. I'm just saying that his description is misleading. And you don't seem to get the difference between the bend and the kink. The video shows the kink, ChumpCars run the bend. The bend adds two more corners and a huge braking zone out of the Carousel, which in turns adds about 10 secs per lap.
So now we have a 186hp stock E30 (maybe cut springs, 180TW Direzza Star Specs, and stripped, I'll give you that), running 2:55 (on the 10 SECOND LONGER CONFIGURATION). So do you still think the F8x was flat out, and it can't even beat an old, tired E30 around the track (not even an E30 M, just a plain ol' 325i)? I'll tell you too that lots of Chumps are good drivers, but not so many are professionals. I would hope an auto journalist that does track days of new cars would be able to be on par. In terms of me thinking I can do better, I would place money on it, because that car's got much more left in it. I ran 3:05 (with the bend...subtract 10-ish seconds), in a '87 Firebird with less than 300hp, more than 3000lbs and 225 width tires. The M4 should smoke that easy. |
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Personally, I cringed when I saw that BMW took these guys to road America with the new M3/M4s. I'd take them to a much smaller track myself, as it seems John himself found out when he most likely saw the oil temp guage well above 270F after two hard laps.
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