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Yup, I think an M3 with DCT should at least be even with an RS5 from a roll if it doesn't pull on it.
RS5: 450 - 20% drivetrain loss = 360 awhp 3800 lbs./360 awhp = 10.56 lbs./awhp M3: 420 - 15% drivetrain loss = 357 rwhp 3570 lbs./357rwhp = 10 lbs./rwhp (European figures) |
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RS5 I'm sure will be a great car, but its 4 wheel drive - as they said in the 80s "just say no".
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So what I am basically saying and if you guys were honest to yourselves you would admit is that the majority would be able to use more of the car's performance if they were driving the RS5 than the M3. |
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02-25-2010, 04:16 AM | #96 | |
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Regarding the opinion that the RS5 will feel like a 2 ton front-heavy AWD loaf, may I suggest waiting to see how it performs before jumping the gun. I know you like many prefer the M3 and can use it's true potential but closing your eyes to different ideas makes you appear very narrow minded. |
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02-25-2010, 04:18 AM | #97 | |
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However, I think it is narrow minded to think that sheer capability and the ability to use such is the formula for deciding how much a driver enjoys these types of cars. Clearly not. These are toys meant for people to buy at a whim; the level of performance they offer is completely unnecessary. It comes down to preference and which one responds the way you like, not about their all-out ability. I honestly don't care if it's faster, driving an AWD car with the engine so far forward in a chassis not too dissimilar from a FWD VW Jetta is not my cup of tea. Now an R8 is a proper car, I would love to experience first hand how an AWD car with a decent weight distribution would feel like at the limit. |
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No only is it's performance easier to access but it's performance is safer to use more of the time (i.e. in the wet) where is will hold a major advantage. So depending on your climate conditions throughout the year you may well find that the logical choice is the car with awd. Even if the performance is slightly down on the dry handling ability it's wet weather ability far outweighs the slight shortfall in the dry. So you seem to be in agreement that for most drivers the AWD car would be the logical and wisest choice but for those that truly have the skill to access the potential of a rwd car then I would be the last person to stand in their way, but only if the majority of the time was spent in the dry and it was their sole purchase. |
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how can you make a statement like that?...do you know everyone on here......do you know what they own...what they have owned? Personally, I have owned: 2 civics, accord, Sub XTI, 69 Mustang, 72 chevelle, mazda MX6, ford 150, Audi A6, acura nsx, 2001 lotus esprit, 335i and currently own an 09 M3 and 06carrara 4S. stick with what you know and quit making silly assumptions...it makes you look stupid!
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you do that quite often......
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Relax everyone, and shiggy footie's assumptions stands because he has owned more cars than you, but it is still an assumption compared to everyone else
and smmmurf you obviously do not know much about the a5 platform, Audi changed the chassis so the engine sits behind the axle, and on top of that the Audi rs5 weighs slightly more than an m3, and due to the awd, but you make it seem like a million pounds. rs5 kerb weight 1725 M3 1680 Someone else said that the e92 m3 set standards... ummm not really the RS4 was the one that set the standard and the m3 followed and beat it no Shiz nit the rs4 was almost 4 years older, so the same goes here the rs5 will probably win but it came out later, and will probably win by a slight margin nothing to get worked up about. im not biased at all, i drive an m5, but i am a car enthusiast and appreciate every great car that comes out and the m3 has held its own and so will the rs5. |
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thats how it works for every car, if you can push the v8 completely behind the Axle you would have the engine in the cockpit, and the gear box where the rear passengers sit.
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