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[ihyln]

I just spoke to someone at Wheelsto and apparently the G2s are available in 18" fitment with a 18x9.5 +15 and 18x10.5 +27 ET (I think, I forgot the conversation already sorry). Once I get the invoice I will update all the specifics. But the 18s are pretty light and weigh in the neighborhood of 18lbs.

Also, according to Wheelsto Volk is planning on redesigning the 18s and 20s to include the lip that is currently present on the 19. However, I can't be bothered to wait that long. I ended up ordering the 18s in Formula Silver for roughly $2900 and will take about 2.5-3 months to get them out to me.

I believe this is a chop but it looks really good.

[808MGuy]

Originally Posted by ihyln

Also, according to Wheelsto Volk is planning on redesigning the 18s and 20s to include the lip that is currently present on the 19.

I actually prefer the no lip look of the 20s over the 19s.

[ihyln]

The lip is really a personal preference but seeing how good it looks without the lip I think it might be the way to go. Can't wait to get these!

[aus]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

I actually prefer the no lip look of the 20s over the 19s.

+1.

It's too similar to the TE37 with the lip.

[STALKER]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

I actually prefer the no lip look of the 20s over the 19s.

Me too. I love the way the 20" look. Wish the 19s had no lip and I would have considered buying them.

[aus]

I was VERY happy when the RAC GB formed since I was not happy about about the look of the 19" G2 vs. the 20" G2. Why make two wheels that almost look the same?

[Victory Road]

Originally Posted by ihyln

Also, according to Wheelsto Volk is planning on redesigning the 18s and 20s to include the lip that is currently present on the 19. However, I can't be bothered to wait that long. I ended up ordering the 18s in Formula Silver for roughly $2900 and will take about 2.5-3 months to get them out to me.

Thanks so much for the interest with us! I'm sure you will be very happy with these wheels.

You misunderstood me on the design change. They are actually changing the 19" version to be like the current 18" and 20" design. So in the future the 19" version will not have a lip.

[808MGuy]

Originally Posted by frank@WSTO

They are actually changing the 19" version to be like the current 18" and 20" design. So in the future the 19" version will not have a lip.

Oh. Now that's much better news. Will it also have that "knuckle" in the spokes like the 20s do. I think that's what made it look so much better than the 19s. If it does, it becomes a very interesting choice for a lightweight wheel.

[Victory Road]

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Oh. Now that's much better news. Will it also have that "knuckle" in the spokes like the 20s do. I think that's what made it look so much better than the 19s. If it does, it becomes a very interesting choice for a lightweight wheel.

As far as I know the 18" and 20' design will carry over to the 19"...so I would imagine they would carry over the "knuckle" as well

[ihyln]

Sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for the correction! I really cannot wait to see how these look on my car. Frank was exceptional with answering all my questions and I felt confident ordering them on the spot. I highly recommend him (and WheelSTO)!

[aus]

Originally Posted by frank@WSTO

Thanks so much for the interest with us! I'm sure you will be very happy with these wheels.

You misunderstood me on the design change. They are actually changing the 19" version to be like the current 18" and 20" design. So in the future the 19" version will not have a lip.

That's good news.
So the 18" version already has no lip now?

[ihyln]

based on the chop I posted, no lip.

[Green///Hell]

I think this was what was cool about the 19's. they will be rare to have one of the remaining sets with the lip and no knuckle.
So sometime down the line they will be unique and hard to get

[STALKER]

Originally Posted by frank@WSTO

As far as I know the 18" and 20' design will carry over to the 19"...so I would imagine they would carry over the "knuckle" as well

How much we looking at for the 19s?
Do you know what width or offsets they will be coming in(new 19s with no lip)? Are the G2s 8000 ton forged? What is the knuckle?
Thanks.

[aus]

Originally Posted by Panda///Monic

I think this was what was cool about the 19's. they will be rare to have one of the remaining sets with the lip and no knuckle.
So sometime down the line they will be unique and hard to get

Unless you're a wheels nut, most people can't tell the diffenece between them an the TE37's.

[stylinexpat]

Lightweight 18" wheels should be nice

[revster]

Originally Posted by aus

Unless you're a wheels nut, most people can't tell the diffenece between them an the TE37's.

Most people can't tell the difference between an M and a regular 3er.

And yet, here we are.

[aus]

Originally Posted by revster

Most people can't tell the difference between an M and a regular 3er.

And yet, here we are.

I beg to differ. I've had MANY people come up to me and compliment on the M3. These are normal folks who are not car nuts. And to really prove the point, I didn't have an M3 badge on my car at the time. I just recently put a black "M3" on. I was very surprised people could tell, even some women at work.

[Victory Road]

Originally Posted by STALKER

How much we looking at for the 19s?
Do you know what width or offsets they will be coming in(new 19s with no lip)? Are the G2s 8000 ton forged? What is the knuckle?
Thanks.

Taken from a Modified Magazine article:

"The patented RM8000 process is unique in that it uses an open die, which allows the aluminum to squish and expand naturally, thus ensuring continuous and dense metal grain flow. During RM8000 forging, the wheel face is simultaneously forged with pressure from the top and bottom, while at the same time spinning the wheel so the hoop is partially extruded out. The voids between spokes are then punched out and the inside of the hoop profile is formed. The wheel is then reheated and quenched for final strength. Machining is kept to a minimum as it increases stress risers and breaks in the metal flow. The wheel’s surface is also shot-blasted to add surface strength.

The RAYS forging process begins with its proprietary version A6061-T6 billet disk of aluminum (an alloy designed specifically for forging) that is first hot-forged into the rough shape of a wheel. This initial forging squishes the disk to create the features on the wheel face as well as the material that will be extruded into the hoop. A second proprietary low-heat forging process called RM8000 further refines the wheel shape and ensures the continuous grain and metal flow throughout the wheel."

Taken from the Mackin Industires (US distributer for Rays/Volk) website:

"This material is hot forged. 1st forging process is done with pressure of 5,000 kilograms per square centimeter (5500 ton). 2nd forging process is a slow process with 3,500 kilograms per square centimeter.

The lip is also forged to 3,500 kilograms per square centimeter. This allows the wheel to have less material than other wheels, but have more strength and durability."

The 19" set starts at $4000 retail, which is matte black 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +25 (same sizing for lip vs. no lip) . We can offer a pretty good discount on Volk wheels as well. I just spoke with our rep, and the non-lip and lip version of the G2 is available now and both will continue to be available. The non-lip version will be stocked in the US, while the lip version will be special order only. They do have a few sets of the lipped version in stock right now. For clarification, the non-lip is the TYPE-I face, while the lipped is TYPE-II face.

Type-I Face (18", 19", 20")


Type-II Face (19" only)

[aus]

So it's 8,000TON forging because the first forging is 5,500TON and the second forging is 3,000TON?

Also, what's the retail on the 18" Type I and will it fit a 380mm Brembo?

Thanks for the info.

[STALKER]

Thanks Frank.
Will the rears for the non lip 19"(type 1) version look different then the fronts, more concave?
What size tires do you guys recommend?
255/35 front and 285/30 rear, or 265/30 front and 285/30 rear?
Thanks.

[Victory Road]

Originally Posted by aus

So it's 8,000TON forging because the first forging is 5,500TON and the second forging is 3,000TON?

Also, what's the retail on the 18" Type I and will it fit a 380mm Brembo?

Thanks for the info.

No, 8,000 ton forging uses one process with 8,000 tons of force. However, Volk quality both in terms of strength/weight and finish is among the best in the industry.

I am working on confirming on brake fitment. There is no problem with 18" TE37, and this should be the same. But just makin sure

Originally Posted by STALKER

Thanks Frank.
Will the rears for the non lip 19"(type 1) version look different then the fronts, more concave?
What size tires do you guys recommend?
255/35 front and 285/30 rear, or 265/30 front and 285/30 rear?
Thanks.

Unfortunately, both lipped version and non-lipped version in 18" and 19" have the same face front to rear. Only the 20x9 and 20x11 M3 fitment has different faces front to rear.

For the 19" sizing I would recommend a 265/30 and 285/30.