Tires for newbie to the tracks...

panda-R · 08-26-2022, 06:17 PM

Thinking of tires for next year and can't decide if I want a street level tire or move up to something like a Hankook RS4s.

Stock brakes and stock suspension, will R Compounds overwhelm this setup? Other choice would be Firehawk Indy500 or PS4S.

DrFerry · 08-26-2022, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by panda-R

Thinking of tires for next year and can't decide if I want a street level tire or move up to something like a Hankook RS4s.

Stock brakes and stock suspension, will R Compounds overwhelm this setup? Other choice would be Firehawk Indy500 or PS4S.

Tire Talk Megathread
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1916791
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panda-R · 08-27-2022, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DrFerry

Tire Talk Megathread
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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1916791
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Thanks I'll join in the discussions there.

Bmwdoubles_ · 08-27-2022, 06:37 PM

Don't do Firehawk or PS4's on track. You'll go 2 - 3 laps and your tires will be melting. I know I've e done both. If you are in the beginner group then maybe you'll be good for an additional lap. You want to go with something in the R compound category.

panda-R · 08-27-2022, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmwdoubles_

Don't do Firehawk or PS4's on track. You'll go 2 - 3 laps and your tires will be melting. I know I've e done both. If you are in the beginner group then maybe you'll be good for an additional lap. You want to go with something in the R compound category.

Yah I'm leaning that route maybe Hankook rs4 since car will get limited time on streets anyway.

Thanks!

omgzirra_exe · 08-28-2022, 12:56 AM

Kumho V730s

begginer-friendly 200TW, low price point. 275/35/18 option.

Ab28 · 09-01-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by panda-R

Yah I'm leaning that route maybe Hankook rs4 since car will get limited time on streets anyway.

Thanks!

RS4s are great. Conti ECF up there too, but they run wider than advertised.
RE71RS is great. RT615 is decent, RT660 better.

You will destroy the 4S on track even with a good alignment. Anyone who says otherwise is not driving hard enough.

Look at the rubber guys are running in Intermediate and Advanced groups. You won't see one car properly set up that's running 4S.

For a beginner that's way under pace, then MAYBE you can get away with it. If you progress quickly you'll be reordering on TireRack before you have time to even think about it.

Z K · 09-01-2022, 01:02 PM

The RS4 is a beginner friendly track tire. RT660 is better if they have the sizes you want.

The Goodyear Supercar 3 is better than RS4 and around the RT660 if you're looking for something for a big heavy car like the M3. Also very street friendly compared to other 200tw tires.

aus · 09-02-2022, 01:27 AM

I'll go against the grain here.
If you're really a newb, I'd stick with a decent street tire. You'll wear out the outer edge on track and the inner edge daily driving. You'll learn the limitations of the tire, and they'll break away smoothly and safely. They also won't cover up bad driving like 200tw tires will. You'll learn to be smoother and your tires will last longer.
Then as you reach the limits of the street tire, you'll be able to make the most of the 200tw tires mentioned above.
Another tires I'd throw out there is the NT05... if they still make them. Cheap and lasts a while. Enough grip for a newb to intermediate who drives smoothly.

I've seen many instructors of PS2 fly around a track back in the day. They were smooth and their tires lasted decently.
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nycplumber · 09-02-2022, 10:31 PM

I like Advan A052. Its a streetable track tire

Golddots · 07-09-2023, 01:26 PM

I agree with this. When I started the e36 m3 was new and fast intermediates and advanced drivers used the Toyo RA1 which is slower than many 200tw “street” tires.
A decent instructor will be aware of the tires getting greasy and will have you back off. When you can manage the car at a lower limit then you are ready for the faster tires.

Back then people would think it’s nuts to send a true newbie on track with over 400hp and sticky tires.

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Bmwdoubles_ Lieutenant 194 Rep 517 Posts Drives: BMW F10 535 Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1) Garage List [0.00]	Don't do Firehawk or PS4's on track. You'll go 2 - 3 laps and your tires will be melting. I know I've e done both. If you are in the beginner group then maybe you'll be good for an additional lap. You want to go with something in the R compound category. __________________ BPM Tuned, Advanced Fuel Dynamics, Paddoq Valved Exhaust, Paddoq Magnetic Paddles, EDC dampers, Dinan Springs, H&R Sway. DCT all day long. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFu...fWjCtOz49FDMlg
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Z K Major General 1887 Rep 5,506 Posts Drives: E90 M3, G20 M340i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (3)	The RS4 is a beginner friendly track tire. RT660 is better if they have the sizes you want. The Goodyear Supercar 3 is better than RS4 and around the RT660 if you're looking for something for a big heavy car like the M3. Also very street friendly compared to other 200tw tires. __________________ Auto Detailing Enthusiast!
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aus Major General 890 Rep 9,031 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	I'll go against the grain here. If you're really a newb, I'd stick with a decent street tire. You'll wear out the outer edge on track and the inner edge daily driving. You'll learn the limitations of the tire, and they'll break away smoothly and safely. They also won't cover up bad driving like 200tw tires will. You'll learn to be smoother and your tires will last longer. Then as you reach the limits of the street tire, you'll be able to make the most of the 200tw tires mentioned above. Another tires I'd throw out there is the NT05... if they still make them. Cheap and lasts a while. Enough grip for a newb to intermediate who drives smoothly. I've seen many instructors of PS2 fly around a track back in the day. They were smooth and their tires lasted decently. . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Golddots Second Lieutenant 85 Rep 280 Posts Drives: e90 m3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: nova iTrader: (1)	I agree with this. When I started the e36 m3 was new and fast intermediates and advanced drivers used the Toyo RA1 which is slower than many 200tw “street” tires. A decent instructor will be aware of the tires getting greasy and will have you back off. When you can manage the car at a lower limit then you are ready for the faster tires. Back then people would think it’s nuts to send a true newbie on track with over 400hp and sticky tires.
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