Blown motors, Rod Bearing failure S65 Registry.

[XIX]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Negative mate . Why would I ?
Check the name *ellekz* He's more than once in the list . The owner is German and he ran with his *third* S65 by bearing failures !
Here is his thread that includes a video while he had bearing failure (ROD KNOCK) for the second time => https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1080379

I started with my personal database in 2012 . And I can tell you that my list is much longer ..
I can't share more information , because it's requested by the owners (private reasons)
It's a normal reaction , because owners think about the resale value of the car .
Others just dump the car ...

I dont know why you would mate, you have an unhealthy obsession with this if you ask me.

Sockets one is definitely a double up, he sold his car years ago so I am sure He didnt blow his engine again. There are other blown engines on here that have nothing to do with the RB's, so if the post is an RB failure registry then that should be all it is, if it is a blown engine registry then the RB shouldn't be in the heading.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by XIX

I dont know why you would mate, you have an unhealthy obsession with this if you ask me.

Sockets one is definitely a double up, he sold his car years ago so I am sure He didnt blow his engine again. There are other blown engines on here that have nothing to do with the RB's, so if the post is an RB failure registry then that should be all it is, if it is a blown engine registry then the RB shouldn't be in the heading.

Again...Negative mate .
Actually I never mentioned anything about Sockets . And I have no idea about his situation .
On the other hand , about *ellekz* situation I know everything . He had several PM's with me . His bearing failures were comfirmed by a BMW/Dealer in Germany .
With his first bearing failure he was very lucky , because it happened while he drove at the German Autobahn with +/- 200km/u on it.

This one in Germany was involved in a car accident with other cars . Cause ?
What do you think it was ? => https://www.infranken.de/regional/ho...155656,1044343
Fact is that bearing failure can hurt people pretty bad with injuries ! Yeah , that's really *unhealthy* (like you said)
And mate , if you don't know it (Let's use our brain) This thread , the list and our words may serve as evidence in court . For all of us....

[byroncheung]

Originally Posted by Iyzmi

That's just statistically false. Main bearing failures have always been and will always be extremely rare. I would bet even rarer than F80 crank hub failure. Don't let a very small handful of anecdotes on the internet warp your perception.

not that i would consider moving to F80, but just curious... so is the F80 crank hub problem higher or lower than E9X RB problem in terms of probability?

[Iyzmi]

Originally Posted by byroncheung

not that i would consider moving to F80, but just curious... so is the F80 crank hub problem higher or lower than E9X RB problem in terms of probability?

I don't know much about it because I have little interest in the F8x platform in general. The owner of the shop that replaced my rod bearings brought it up and said it was a worse issue for the simple fact that there's nothing you can do to prevent it, like you can with RBs on the E9x.

[RedScytheM3]

Originally Posted by XIX

I dont know why you would mate, you have an unhealthy obsession with this if you ask me.

Sockets one is definitely a double up, he sold his car years ago so I am sure He didnt blow his engine again. There are other blown engines on here that have nothing to do with the RB's, so if the post is an RB failure registry then that should be all it is, if it is a blown engine registry then the RB shouldn't be in the heading.

You should go back and actually read the title of the thread. It covers both.

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by byroncheung

not that i would consider moving to F80, but just curious... so is the F80 crank hub problem higher or lower than E9X RB problem in terms of probability?

Assuming you don’t power mod the f80/2, the impression I get is that it happens with a similar frequency to the s65 main bearing failures.

[XIX]

Originally Posted by RedScytheM3

You should go back and actually read the title of the thread. It covers both.

The point is it makes no sense. Rod bearing failure is engine failure. If you are going to put Rod bearings in the title, make the thread about rod bearing engine failures, otherwise its useless being there.

[Rockland]

Correct me if I am wrong but I dont think we know of any instance where a rod bearing failure caused a car accident Not exactly the same thing as the GM ignition fiasco which resulted in deaths.

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by Rockland

Correct me if I am wrong but I dont think we know of any instance where a rod bearing failure caused a car accident Not exactly the same thing as the GM ignition fiasco which resulted in deaths.

There are at least a few crashes caused by rod bearing failure that I remember being reported.

[RedScytheM3]

Originally Posted by XIX

The point is it makes no sense. Rod bearing failure is engine failure. If you are going to put Rod bearings in the title, make the thread about rod bearing engine failures, otherwise its useless being there.

I think the point is to be a data aggregator regardless of failure type. No matter how your engine decides to kick the bucket, either way it sucks for the owner. Having a database with reporting that is not exclusive to one failure over another is useful, not useless.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by RedScytheM3

I think the point is to be a data aggregator regardless of failure type. No matter how your engine decides to kick the bucket, either way it sucks for the owner. Having a database with reporting that is not exclusive to one failure over another is useful, not useless.

Unless you document the reason for failures, then total failure numbers are kinda useless when talking specifically about rod bearing failures, which according to the title of this topic is what this thread should be about?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

There are at least a few crashes caused by rod bearing failure that I remember being reported.

Spot on !

The accident in Germany (Deutsche A9 Autobahn) => May 7/2015 , the S65 locked up and threw a rod through the block , with 220 km/h on it => 137 mph.
Several cars were involved in the accident ,some people were slightly injured but the owner/driver ended up in the hospital
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In 2012...It was in Romania or Bulgaria (not sure) The 24 year old driver drove with high speed through his village .
Witnesses heard a very loud abnormal engine noise while the car suddenly lost control on a straight . The car flew off the road into a farms wall with a rod through the S65 block !
Today , 6 years later the owner is still paralysed and in his wheelchair ...

Picture from the accident in Germany .

[L4ces]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Spot on !

The accident in Germany (Deutsche A9 Autobahn) => May 7/2015 , the S65 locked up and threw a rod through the block , with 220 km/h on it => 137 mph.
Several cars were involved in the accident ,some people were slightly injured but the owner/driver ended up in the hospital
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In 2012...It was in Romania or Bulgaria (not sure) The 24 year old driver drove with high speed through his village .
Witnesses heard a very loud abnormal engine noise while the car suddenly lost control on a straight . The car flew off the road into a farms wall with a rod through the S65 block !
Today , 6 years later the owner is still paralysed and in his wheelchair ...

Picture from the accident in Germany .

Omg!!!!

[XIX]

Originally Posted by tdott

Unless you document the reason for failures, then total failure numbers are kinda useless when talking specifically about rod bearing failures, which according to the title of this topic is what this thread should be about?

My point exactly. Data without context is useless. Which is currently what the list is. Until it has context regarding failure reason it means nothing. Engines fail all the time. If you want tp point out a specific cause then it needs to be addressed exclusive of other causes.

[tlow98]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Spot on !

The accident in Germany (Deutsche A9 Autobahn) => May 7/2015 , the S65 locked up and threw a rod through the block , with 220 km/h on it => 137 mph.
Several cars were involved in the accident ,some people were slightly injured but the owner/driver ended up in the hospital
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In 2012...It was in Romania or Bulgaria (not sure) The 24 year old driver drove with high speed through his village .
Witnesses heard a very loud abnormal engine noise while the car suddenly lost control on a straight . The car flew off the road into a farms wall with a rod through the S65 block !
Today , 6 years later the owner is still paralysed and in his wheelchair ...

Picture from the accident in Germany .

Sad story, but driving through a town @137 mph is incredibly reckless. Also, was he wearing his seat belt bc the passenger compartment isn’t that bad...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by tlow98

Sad story, but driving through a town @137 mph is incredibly reckless. Also, was he wearing his seat belt bc the passenger compartment isn’t that bad...

Negative . The 137 mph was on the Deutsche A9 Autobahn in Germany (see picture)
Please re-read my post again ..

[///M Power-Belgium]

T!m@ for the list => # 1161 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...911030&page=53

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[pbonsalb]

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-m3-s65-engine

Don’t know the details but am guessing #1 crank journal scorched.

[houston]

Ugh

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-m3-s65-engine

Don’t know the details but am guessing #1 crank journal scorched.

S65 picture from the owner.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Bearing failure in Belgium (2016)

[NeverL8]

Currently someone is selling seized S65 on offer up app in San Diego area with 36k miles