What is the point of launch controll?

SEI · 02-26-2013, 02:40 AM

i know what launch controll is used for but on the e9x m3 its retarded and useless...

in the E46 M3 when you launch the car holds still untill you release the smg lever.

but on the e92 when you engage "launch control" the car creeps forward while on launch control so its completely useless for drag or any "launching"

whats up with that?

thegeneral101 · 02-26-2013, 06:45 AM

my DCT with LC didn't creep forward. are you following the steps to a T in the manual?

erm324 · 02-26-2013, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEI

i know what launch controll is used for but on the e9x m3 its retarded and useless...

in the E46 M3 when you launch the car holds still untill you release the smg lever.

but on the e92 when you engage "launch control" the car creeps forward while on launch control so its completely useless for drag or any "launching"

whats up with that?

it will creep forward sometimes (not all the time) so the best thing to do is quickly release the lever after you engage LC and just go. There's no point in sitting there having the car rev at 5krpm for anything longer than a second. LC is extremely beneficial when at the track for getting a great ET.

///M Ryder · 02-26-2013, 09:07 AM

If you are not on a completely level surface it creeps....otherwise it works as advertised......Phil

CanAutM3 · 02-26-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Ryder

If you are not on a completely level surface it creeps....otherwise it works as advertised......Phil

+1

Never had creep issue on a level surface.

THE TECH · 02-26-2013, 09:30 AM

I dislike creeps.

NikB316 · 02-26-2013, 10:19 AM

Yeah no creepage here on a level surface.

edwinm3 · 02-26-2013, 02:30 PM

This thread is creepy

STi_traitor · 02-26-2013, 02:38 PM

STi_traitor · 02-26-2013, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEI

i know what launch controll is used for but on the e9x m3 its retarded and useless...

in the E46 M3 when you launch the car holds still untill you release the smg lever.

but on the e92 when you engage "launch control" the car creeps forward while on launch control so its completely useless for drag or any "launching"

whats up with that?

Why did you get rid of the GT-R?

dead ringer · 02-26-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

Why did you get rid of the GT-R?

cuz he rode in an M3

rjd598 · 02-26-2013, 04:28 PM

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ScreaM · 02-26-2013, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEI

i know what launch controll is used for but on the e9x m3 its retarded and useless

Totally agree..what is the point of launching a car that wasn't built for launching. They are designed for road racing.

Common knowledge the rear end on these cars can't take launching consistently and will eventually result in a differential bushing or bolt failure.

M3takesNYC · 02-26-2013, 06:47 PM

I don't understand what this means above. A car not made for launching? The car has done a 3.9 0-60 and a 12.5 quarter mile. The m3 nowadays is a straight line rocket that hangs with everything in its category until the C63 powerpack came out.

3.9 is supercar speed 10 years ago.

The m3 definitely is even stronger in driving balance but a 420 pound v8 with 7 gears and 3600 pounds is really a blast and fast in a straight

EliteM3 · 02-26-2013, 09:48 PM

Level ground has nothing to do with it. The car rolls forward when you apply throttle. Otherwise how do you explain the car sitting still prior to engaging launch control without the brake on?

I'm with the OP. it moves.

SflBimmer8484 · 02-26-2013, 10:33 PM

Well.. The point of launch control is to electronically assist drivers of both racing and street cars to accelerate from a standing start.

Why do you need it?

The high power delivery to the gearbox and driven wheels cannot easily be managed even by the most skilled drivers when attempting to launch from a standing start.

This does not apply to the M3 as it has a horrible launch control that be creepin when you least expect it

NFAM3 · 02-27-2013, 06:32 AM

Not only that, the e46 had two modes of its launch control. It had its kill mode which would rip the tires. Then it had its launch mode which would take off without spinning. This e9x of ours only has kill mode. It's useless unless you have the proper tires. And I'm also with the OP, it creeps forward. Made me trip the lights at the track.

SEI · 02-27-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by STi_traitor

Why did you get rid of the GT-R?

because its boring as hell... the car is driving you not you driving it... after the first 2 months of being amazed by the accleration its really a soulless machine.. i dont like it..

i like having traction off on a rwd car going sideways into a wall.. you heart just pumps like mad..

SEI · 02-27-2013, 09:49 AM

ok that means its just my car.. i asked this because i was just at the m owners club of indonesia meet and they had a drag thing and i couldnt use launch controll on a completely flat carpark.. (you can see the pictures of the carpark on the first page of bimmerpost)

SEI · 02-27-2013, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EliteM3

Level ground has nothing to do with it. The car rolls forward when you apply throttle. Otherwise how do you explain the car sitting still prior to engaging launch control without the brake on?

I'm with the OP. it moves.

+1 im on a completely level surface..

only way to make it not creep is if there is a slight incline.

HighandDry · 02-27-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by M3takesNYC

I don't understand what this means above. A car not made for launching? The car has done a 3.9 0-60 and a 12.5 quarter mile. The m3 nowadays is a straight line rocket that hangs with everything in its category until the C63 powerpack came out.

3.9 is supercar speed 10 years ago.

The m3 definitely is even stronger in driving balance but a 420 pound v8 with 7 gears and 3600 pounds is really a blast and fast in a straight

That 3.9 is VERY optimistic. Sure you can be like Car&Driver and beat on your car to get that perfect launch, but in the real world, you're not going to hit that 3.9 very often.

On the other hand, those tests were down with roll out, so maybe it's appropiate in this thread with the creep

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...nce-of-rollout
http://www.nogaroblue.com/27978/30426.html

STi_traitor · 02-27-2013, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SEI

because its boring as hell... the car is driving you not you driving it... after the first 2 months of being amazed by the accleration its really a soulless machine.. i dont like it..

i like having traction off on a rwd car going sideways into a wall.. you heart just pumps like mad..

Sounds good! Would be nice to have both for days you want to be fast but lazy! HAHA!

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M3takesNYC Banned 19 Rep 426 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	I don't understand what this means above. A car not made for launching? The car has done a 3.9 0-60 and a 12.5 quarter mile. The m3 nowadays is a straight line rocket that hangs with everything in its category until the C63 powerpack came out. 3.9 is supercar speed 10 years ago. The m3 definitely is even stronger in driving balance but a 420 pound v8 with 7 gears and 3600 pounds is really a blast and fast in a straight
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NFAM3 Lieutenant 157 Rep 522 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0)	Not only that, the e46 had two modes of its launch control. It had its kill mode which would rip the tires. Then it had its launch mode which would take off without spinning. This e9x of ours only has kill mode. It's useless unless you have the proper tires. And I'm also with the OP, it creeps forward. Made me trip the lights at the track. __________________ 2011 BMW M3
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