Next step after PFC08

[P1zzaboy]

Hi guys,

I am looking for my next brake pads. I have PFC08 right now, but they tend to fade when i push harder on track. My car has full street weight, and running street tires.

What pads do you suggest to replace my PFC08? I already have the squeal and dust, so not an issue. I dont have the budget for a full big brake kit

Thanks!

[VictorH]

You're probably not going to find a pad that is more fade resistant (at least not enough better). The next step for you would be a set of PFD direct drive rotors. NIght and day difference compared to stock rotors.

[warp10]

It's not the pad. It's either the fluid, brake lines, or you braking technique.

I would opt to keep the pad as it's probably the best budget friendly set up with stick rotors and calipers. Change to a high temp fluid, stainless lines, and read up on braking technique. Also if the pads are past 50% of life pad performance will start to decrease at an increasing rate.

[Datka]

I would recommend to replace stock rotors with pfc direct rotors, srf racing brake fluid, and dtc 70 front /60 rear pads. Stainless lines are not necessary.
This brake set up is very efficient for stock calipers and provides maximum fade resistant brake performance.
However DTC 70 pads don't last nearly as long as PFC-08

[dparm]

Find a way to get more cooling in there. That will probably be cheaper than a rotor upgrade.

Otherwise, save your money for a BBK. Even a basic one, like a StopTech ST-40, will be very stout.

[VictorH]

Originally Posted by dparm

Find a way to get more cooling in there. That will probably be cheaper than a rotor upgrade.

Otherwise, save your money for a BBK. Even a basic one, like a StopTech ST-40, will be very stout.

Good luck with that. Many of us have tried ducted cooling solutions and if you daily drive your car they are a major nuisance. Perhaps there are better versions out there now, I'm not aware of a superior design, but your tires will almost certainly rub on the duct tubing at full-lock.

Also, it just buys you slightly more time before you get fade. Improved rotors are a better, less problematic solution. Been there, done that.

[P1zzaboy]

Originally Posted by VictorH

You're probably not going to find a pad that is more fade resistant (at least not enough better). The next step for you would be a set of PFD direct drive rotors. NIght and day difference compared to stock rotors.

I read very different opinions on the PFC rotors. Seems like they have quality control issues. You were satisfied by yours?

[VictorH]

How old is that news? I understand there were issues with sn earlier version but I've run both their stock replacement and the big brake version. Both have been completely trouble free.

[coneill]

if you're serious about tracking the car I'd go for a big brake kit. e9x is heavy and very under-braked. I had ran the same setup as you for a while and eventually heat soaked my rotors and lost braking at a track day. You need more surface area to get rid of the heat. The post https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1626880

[OldenburgerM3]

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