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you are guessing. . You say "if they last longer…" what if they are not? . And a few posts down the road it becomes a fact that the Force last longer at the same lap time. IF they can do the same lap time as RE-71R . and then you asking if I am trolling. I am not. |
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I tried 2 sets of AR1's, because the first were so bad, I surely thought I got a bad batch. But no, the 2nd set was more of the same. I'll never be buying them again, when tires like the NT01 and RR exist - I wouldn't even bother at 50% off because they last less then 50% as long lol. If you're looking to try to the tire just to try and it and see how fast it is, sure. But it's not going to be a good option if you want a fast (subjective) tire that lasts well and is good value. |
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First hand experience here is good enough for me and this is an excellent feed back. I don't have a desire to try these at full price since at that price I already like the RT660.
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Now I've dabbled into the R7 land, I'm sure A7 and non DOT slicks will come into play over the next year+. Right now I don't mind paying the premium for R7 to get predictability and consistency from a proper race tire vs the field. Even if they slow down, I like practicing and finding their limit as they HC out. Generally the rubber is still wearing well! Excited to try the new Eagle RS slick.
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I had my Solo in the car. I'll check data against similar laps. Cumulative Gs, and the like.
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Of course, we apparently live in different universes when it comes to physics and all of that kind of stuff You want a fast non-slick tire that’s consistent get the Supercar 3R. Or say I’m wrong and buy something silly.
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The 3R's are a DREAM. Sucks they're on backorder. I've been searching for a month now. Harder than finding a PS5!
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12-19-2021, 09:05 AM | #846 | |
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But as the price creeps up toward the R7 and A7, I might as well get those. I had really great time on R7 set. The RS4 don't have the 19" sizes I need. The Force has 295/30/19 or 315/30/19 for rear and it is not my preferred sizes. |
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Laps / Tires: 1:59.6 AR-1 2:00.3 Continental Force 2:00.3 NT01 The last Lap compare profile and XY plot is the Continental Force vs a Hoosier R7 with around > 12 heat cycles. Note these laps a are on the SAME DAY. 2:00.3 Cont Force, #2360 1:54.6 R7, #2369 I think the Continental is a very capable tire. Worth consideration.
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stepping away from all the drama and the cost savings suggestions, the economic calculations and lessons in physics. Here is the reality for getting 2022 starting/
I have: 8 x S007 275/35/19 for the rear and 8 x RE-71R 265/35/19 for the front. Until I try and see how this set performs, I would not know if this is good, bad or indifference. It will be consistence set over few trackdays. I might even dedicate this combination to a specific track such as PMP or LRP. I have few 285/30/19 for the front that I do know what I can expect and they fine to go out and have fun. They are good for NYST. RE-050a, MPSS, SO-04. I have few sets of 295/30/19 that are good with 285/30/19 front, but I don't like how they feel with the 265/35/19 up front. I also don't like to run the short 295 on big track such as WGI RR, Corsa 2, MPSS I have quite a few days at WGI which I tried and liked the Corsa 2 305/30/19 on the rear. I have 4 of those saved for WGI Overall, I have enough tires for 2022. As a side note, no eBay tires. It turns out that waiting for Tire Rack sale and getting new tires is a better idea than buying used tires from eBay. |
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I've ran them as low as 34 and high as 36. Still experimenting on psi's w my tpms system. Best times were in the 34 range
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My plan is to break 60sec at LRP on 200tw-300tw tire
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The ride to LRP on UHP All Season was wonderful since the day started on 25*. I am still on a plan to try the UHP All season in the rain. But as far as temp go, it was a failure. Melted UHP All season . Picture after one session. Perhaps more air pressure would have saved the edge better? But you can see damage extends into the outer 1/3rd This is LRP. The tire looks like after a whole day in NYST. . |
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I have the DWS06 Plus as my street / very wet track tires (e.g., standing water and sustained rain). Haven't had a chance to really try it out, but on the street, it was a very reasonable tire.
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My problem is that early spring, late fall I am leaving my house in temps in the low 20s and I am nervous on summer tire/200tw tires. So I wanted to try the all season. But than if sunny, it warms up to 40s. Pace was 61 sec. Only the front melted. The rear were fine. my first 2021 PMP day was in 25* and sunny. |
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